Partying Like A Young Degenerate Is Not Good For Your Finances

Recently, I went off the deep end—living like a degenerate gambler and party animal—and I wanted to reflect on it. Perhaps to nobody's surprise, I don't think having extreme amounts of fun is good for your financial future. It's probably also not good for your health.

In our personal finance world bubble, where we go to bed by 11:30 PM, wake up by 5:30 AM to grind for a couple hours on our X Factor before work or childcare, and always pay ourselves first before spending any money, it was eye-opening to realize that many people don't live this way and actually party it up frequently, even with kids!

The Sacrifices We Make To Achieve Financial Independence

As a FIRE proponent since 2009, one of the common questions I get is what sacrifices I made to break free from the corporate grind at 34—and whether it was worth it. My answer: 60+-hour workweeks for 13 years, skipping out on most barhopping and clubbing, and enduring enough stress to develop chronic back pain and other physical ailments.

Was it worth it? Absolutely. Hard work and stress were all I knew after college. In high school, I was flipping burgers at McDonald’s and working temp jobs for minimum wage. So when I had the chance to get paid significantly more to suffer, I made the most of it until I burned out. Thankfully, the chronic pain also went away once I left work.

Now, after 13 years of semi-retirement, the sacrifices feel even more worthwhile. Looking back, I would have pushed myself even harder. The window of opportunity to earn and grow doesn’t stay open forever. You will get older. You will get tired. And luck won’t always be on your side.

The sacrifices you make today will be worth it in the future. Too bad many people don't realize this fact until they're too old.

Partying Like a 27-Year-Old Degenerate

But I must admit—I sometimes wonder what it would’ve been like to party it up in my entire 20s like some of my classmates and colleagues did. So, to scratch that itch, I decided to do just that on a recent weekend.

On Friday, January 31, 2025, I had lunch downtown with a friend who played in the NBA. He was speaking at my friend's company so we all decided to get together since he flew in. After lunch, I rushed home to then drive to play tennis at an indoor club with several other buddies because it was raining. Then I went to pick up my kids from school.

After dinner and tucking the kiddos to bed, at 9 PM, I went to my softball buddy’s place for a game of Texas Hold’em. He’s 27 and had a group of late-20s friends and a mid-30s friend over, plus me, the senior citizen at 47.

We played poker, drank Red Bulls and vodkas, ate homemade chocolate chip cookies, talked story, made fun of our donkey calls, and had a blast until 2:45 AM! It was a good diverse group of guys from various financial backgrounds.

Here's one of our hands with three players going all-in with Ace (H)/Jack (C), Pocket 2s, and Ace King Suited. The guy with pocket deuces first went all in, then the guy with Ace Jack pushed all in for even more, and finally, the guy with Ace King suited called.

Went To A Concert The Very Next Night

I crawled into bed at 3:30 AM and, inexplicably, woke up at 7 AM. Wrecked. But the day didn’t stop. I took my daughter to ballet, went paint shopping with my son, painted the interior of our old house, then took the family to my son’s classmate’s birthday party.

At 4:40 PM, I left for a USTA tennis match at 5 PM, which I lost in a brutal three-set tiebreak. Then, without missing a beat, I rushed home at 7:30 PM to shower, get dressed, and go out again at 8:30 PM—this time to the Sultan + Shepard concert at The Warfield with my wife. The tickets cost $165 each and the Bacardi and Cokes were $18 each! YOLO baby!

We danced and vibed until 1 AM before going to bed at 2 AM. For the first time in over 10 years, I slept in until 9 AM, seven hours straight! It was glorious.

Sultan + Shepard and Tishmal performing Losing Ground

Not Very Productive the Next Day

Usually, I write my Sunday newsletter Friday night or sometime Saturday. But this time, I told myself I’d do it Sunday morning because I was feeling lazy. Problem was, I didn’t expect to wake up so late. I ended up publishing at 11:30 AM—seven hours later than usual. Oops!

If I had a boss, they’d be pissed. If I charged for my newsletter, subscribers might ask for refunds. Luckily, I answer to no one, and everything I write is free. Ah, the glory of doing your own thing and being your own boss!

Which got me thinking—how do people party hard and still get things done? I could never have been productive while gambling and partying until early in the morning in my 20s and 30s, let alone in my late 40s. My lack of productivity would have then hit my saving and investing. Ultimately, I would have had to have worked for many more years to achieve financial freedom all for the sake of more partying. That doesn't seem worth it at all!

Given the rainy weather, my family and I spent the rest of Sunday grabbing lunch, doing more painting at our old house, and checking out open houses for research and interior design inspiration.

Now that I think of it, one reason I felt confident going all out that weekend was because I could rest and recover on Monday after I dropped my kids off at school. If you have kids in school, and you don't have a day job, the time to party is during the weeknights!

Don’t Go Off the Deep End Before You Have Enough Money

Of course, you should have fun. You don’t want to sacrifice every ounce of enjoyment on your way to financial independence. Enjoy the journey!

But, like everything, moderation is key.

The people I know who partied hard in their 20s and 30s and spent freely are, unsurprisingly, far behind financially. Some have family money to fall back on, but most will need to work for decades. It is their choice.

If you want to party hard, quiet quit, work from home to play pickleball during the day, or take long gap years, it’s your prerogative. However, at least try to reach your Minimum Investment Threshold Amount (MIT) first. Once your investments can potentially generate more than your day job income ~70% of the time, you’ll have a much better safety net in case of layoffs or underperformance.

Competition is only getting fiercer due to globalization and artificial intelligence. The best balance may be to party in moderation until you reach MIT, party a little harder afterward, and go on a bender only once you have enough passive income to cover all your expenses. This is the smarter way.

You Won't Dramatically Change Who You Are After You Achieve FIRE

Once you reach financial independence, you may realize that excessive partying was never as fun as it seemed. You might think you’ll finally have time for all the wild adventures you put off, but in reality, you’ll probably just continue living life much as before—just with a little more joy and ease.

Going on a bender once a quarter or even once a month can be a good time, but every week? That gets old fast. Seeing 20 countries in Europe over a three-month time period? That also starts getting old because once you've seen one gothic church, you've seen them all.

It’s funny how we often chase what we don’t have, only to take it for granted once it’s within reach. If you retire early in a big city, you might actually feel more overwhelmed than bored—there's too much you could do, and that paradox of choice can be exhausting.

For me, one wild weekend every quarter is more than enough. These days, I’d much rather enjoy a great meal, watch an engaging show, or get lost in a good book at home.

Wow, I really do sound like an old fart now. So… where’s the next party at?!

Did you party hard in your 20s and 30s? If so, did it impact your work productivity and personal finances? Do you still party like a degenerate now? If so, how do you maintain the energy and joy to keep the good times rolling without burning out?

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The Doctor's Momma
The Doctor's Momma
1 month ago

My husband and I were the party animals during our earlier years..him more than me! We went out every night, after a long day at work at stressful jobs, going to happy hour, then out to dinner. We did this for years! Then we decided to get serious with our financial goals, start a family and invest in our future. I don’t regret spending all that $$$ and time because I think it taught me not to foolishly spend $$$ on things that really don’t count. We worked together to create goals and focused on achieving those goals. We paid ourselves first, contributed as much as possible to our retirement plans and IRA’s, diligently paid off debt and established a spending plan to guide us to make these things happen. I wish more people would learn financial literacy and start taking control of their personal finances. Even taking small steps toward FIRE will help their situation. Please keep sharing about your experiences. I enjoy reading your newsletter.

John
John
1 month ago

Where are the pics of all the girls? If you are going to party hard for a weekend it surely included lots of young and pretty woman, right? :) Or is it only Hugh Hefner who mastered that?

Untemplater
1 month ago

Having a good time is fun in moderation. I enjoy a big social gathering or outing about once every 1-2 months. That’s a good balance for me between work, family, friends, and REST. Although it can be fun to have a full calendar, it frankly gets exhausting and expensive quickly. I need time to recharge in between and it also makes it more fun to have something to look forward to. When my calendar is too packed, I tend to dread events instead of feel excited about them. So I naturally prefer the later.

kat1809
kat1809
1 month ago

I was never much of a party animal, and am pretty much a home body. But recently in a single week (ok, 8 days) I engaged in the following extracurricular activities:

  1. Saturday afternoon: the hubs and I spent about 2 hours (about half spent on freeway driving) going to our 2024 tax prep appointment. This was followed by about an hour stop at a discount furniture store to purchase a dining room set for our eldest son, which involved coordinating with our son via both text and voice to make an acceptable selection.
  2. Monday evening: the hubs and I went out to dinner to a fancy place we’d never been to before to celebrate our 46th (!) wedding anniversary (no freeway driving necessary).
  3. Tuesday morning: I spent about 3.5 hours bringing a friend to a medical appointment (about half spent on freeway driving).
  4. Thursday afternoon / evening: the hubs and I spent about 8 hours driving out to my eldest sibling’s home to visit with my two other siblings, one of whom had driven down from northern California (rain the entire way), going out to dinner, having dessert back at my sibling’s home, visiting for a bit longer not wanting to leave. Then having to drive back home in the very rainy darkness. (Thankfully most all the other freeway drivers were driving fairly conservatively given the rainy conditions, but it was still a stressful drive home for this old retired person 20 years your senior! LOL) (probably over two hours spent on freeway driving)
  5. Friday morning / afternoon: the hubs and I had a nice visit (at our place) and lunch out with our eldest son and his SO (no freeway driving involved).
  6. Saturday evening: the hubs and I had dinner at our eldest son’s place to break in his new dining room set (only 40 minutes of freeway driving).

Sometime on Sunday afternoon, when I wondered, “why am I so tired?” I realized it was probably because I had enjoyed THREE dinner parties in ONE week – I think for the first time in my entire life! LOL (well, that plus all the freeway driving!)

I don’t think I could keep up this pace of activity for very long – even in my much, much younger working days. LOL

Steve Toth
Steve Toth
1 month ago

I was a party animal from my teens till I hit almost 40 or so. THEN I started getting serious about the FIRE movement. Regardless, i still turned myself into a self-made millionaire by the time I was 55, retirement age, by working three jobs and really saving and investing all my time and money.
My only regret is that if I started way sooner I could have possibly been a billionaire if things went my way, but still I am satisfied the way it turned out.

Steve Toth
Steve Toth
1 month ago

Because I am 71 now, and am trying to spend all I made before I die!!

Steve Toth
Steve Toth
1 month ago

Real Estate!! Buying distressed properties/foreclosures on the court house steps ( in the 90’s) before the craze hit. Once was just me and a couple others ( called ourselves the court-house gang)- now there is a throng at every sale driving the prices up to where there is almost no profit to be made.
But I persevered and developed quite a portfolio so that now I am very comfortably retired. And loving it!