Ever wonder how you can tell if a guy is rich if he displays little material wealth? This post will help you figure out whether a man is wealthy or not through some subtleties.
If you shack up in a house full of men and women as I did in Mallorca, there will inevitably be conversations about the other side. Men want to learn more about how women really think in order to get more women or at least find one perfect woman to treat right.
I imagine it's the same for women, although men are much easier to figure out. All we want to do is cuddle, give you foot massages, and make pancakes while you're still in bed every morning. Is that really too much to ask?
One woman, let's call her Chica Bonita, recently went through a divorce. Money, the number one reason for marital breakups was unfortunately one of their main reasons as well. Perhaps they had spending differences or perhaps the economy was unkind to two budding successes in their respective fields. I didn't want to dig.
When I asked her whether she'd go out with a not-so-rich fella again, she said, “Absolutely. But can he at least be attractive?” Fair enough. Who doesn't want to go out with a good looking beefcake?
But by the end of our enormous plate of paella con mariscos and bottle of rosé she changed her mind. “OK, I've decided I'm only going to be with a rich guy in the future because breaking up over money problems is terrible! I did the whole poor fella thing and never again.“
Two Problems Rich Guys Face
I know a bunch of rich guys who are looking for someone but don't want women to explicitly know they are rich. Part of the reason is because women say they don't want to date “rich douchebags,” as if all men who are rich are automatically categorized as douchebags!
So long as you have more you will always be considered arrogant to others, even if you've done little to warrant such disdain. Miserable people can't help but discredit other people's achievements.
At the same time no man wants to feel used either, which is why some of the best relationships come out of college when both parties have hardly anything.
Men realize it's difficult to compete in the game of love if they don't display some type of status. That's why you see some guys spend a majority of their money on BMW car payments while living in a shack or worse yet, their mom's basement.
Rich guys aren't stupid. They know that wealth can help make up for any physical deficiencies or personality disorders up to a point.
Women constantly buttress this phenomena as we constantly see regular looking fellas date women way out of their league. The tie that binds is almost always money and both sides acknowledge.
There's a lot of nice guys in the world, but there isn't mathematically a preponderance of wealthy gentlemen walking around. Only around 12% of the American population make more than $100,000 a year and I would say only 1% of the population is truly considered financially rich. Women are more attracted to nice AND rich guys all else being equal.
Now do you see how difficult it is to be the sex who always has to make a move? It's all the woman's fault for sending mixed messages about secretly wanting a wealthy man but trashing them at the same time for their wealth.
How Can Rich Guys Come Across Better?
I asked Chica Bonita how she plans to find that rich guy if she can't really tell if he's rich in the first place. Remember, she's looking for that low key rich guy. I was sincerely curious to know since it sounds like a difficult mission for both men and women to pull off.
She responded simply, “Mannerisms. You can tell a guy is well off by the way he speaks and the way he acts. Women will pick up on subtleties along the way. The key for a guy is to show enough to pique our interest, but not enough so we know everything.“
BAM! So for all you rich guys out there who know you're a great catch for any lady, work on your diction. After cutting out those “umms,” “likes,” and pauses from your speech, start hitting those vocabulary enhancing apps.
Instead of using the word “homeless” consider using the word “mendicant” before donating $10 in front of her while walking down the street. Instead of rambling on about a thesis, consider summarizing your thoughts in three succinct points. Maybe you can even learn a joke or two!
Can't Hide Sophisticated Speech
After you're done sounding like a sophisticated gentleman, make sure you've got great posture and perfect eye connection. Given that you're not allowed to wear outlandish designer clothing, you'll need to be fit to look good in your t-shirt and jeans. Don't be fooled by beauty. More than half the battle to looking good is just being in great shape.
Don't hog the conversation time either. Make the dialogue dance in a 50/50 split. If you can amaze her with your listening ability and show that you empathize with her various concerns you're well on your way to leveling up. She'll eventually find out you are big balling. By then, it'll be up to you decide whether you want to bust out the foot massages!
Other Hints To Tell If A Guy Is Rich
* Education: If he went to a good university or has a graduate degree from a reputable school, chances are high he makes more than the median income. Memorize the fact that the median income for 29 year old MBA graduates from the top 20 schools is around $120,000 a year to start.
Know that first year cardiologists, radiologists, and orthopedic surgeons make at least $250,000 a year in big cities and 30%+ more in smaller cities. Here's a chart of the median total pay package for graduates from the top 15 MBA schools.
* Occupation. The large majority of people who've worked for more than 10 years in the field of medicine, strategy consulting, investment banking, private equity, venture capital, successful internet startups and high tech all make six figures a year and have net worths of over $1 million dollars. If they don't, they will with enough time and financial competence.
Hence, if you want a wealthy man find a man who is in his mid 30s or older. It all depends on how old you want to go as you can find plenty of 65 year old fireman with enormous pensions as well! Check out who are the top 0.1% income earners who make over $1 million a year.
* Items of clothing or accessories. It's almost impossible not to wear anything nice if a man has money. Common things to look out for include watches, dress shirts, shoes, belts, and wallets. One good hint is to see whether his dress shirts are tailor made. Tailor made clothing isn't necessarily more expensive, but they do provide hints that the man cares about quality and potentially travels for work, which are both correlated to wealth.
Many wealthy men also can't help but drive a nice car or wear a nice watch. Memorize that entry level BMW 3 series, Audi A4s, Mercedes C series, and Lexus IS models cost about $40,000-$60,000 and go up in 35% increments for each successive line. If he's paid cash, you're golden. If he leases, you've got to figure out whether he put in on his company (good), or whether he's leasing because he can't really afford it (bad).
Women should also look out for watches like the Rolex Stainless Steel Daytona, IWC Big Pilot, Hublot Big Bang, Audemars Piguet Royal Oak, and Panerai Submersibles. They cost between $7,000 – $15,000 and are considered a wealthy man's “everyday” watch. Finally, look out for guys who rock $100 digital watches from Casio and Timex. Wealthy guys love to go the complete other way.
* Attitudes about wealth. For the mass affluent, there is an inverse relationship between how much wealth you display and how wealthy you are. The more men try to showboat their wealth, the more likely he is spending beyond his means with credit card debt. Women should question a man's thoughts on debt and consumption by asking about the state of the overall consumer.
Most wealthy men I know have a good understanding about finances in general. They take calculated risks with their money and have firm opinions about politics, social welfare, and foreign affairs. Wealthy men try to look for as much value as possible because there's a deeper appreciation for a dollar earned.
* Homeownership. In 2020, the average net worth of a homeowner was $250,000 vs. an average net worth of only $5,000 for a renter. A lot has happened since then, but the real estate market is clearly recovering. A 40X greater net worth difference is statistically significant. Canadians have enormous net worths due to a bull market in housing. Women should figure out whether the man owns his primary residence and when the primary residence was purchased.
An innocuous way of finding out is by assuming a man does not own by asking, “How is your landlord and is s/he raising the rent this year?” If he is a homeowner, he can't help but admit his ownership and probably when he bought because he'll be so proud. Obviously there are very wealthy renters as well. If your man is a renter, then it's up to you to figure out whether he owns other assets like a large stake in a successful company.
Easy To Tell If A Guy Is Rich If You Pay Attention
The more observant a woman is the more she'll be able to figure out whether the guy is wealthy or just another over levered Joe Schmoe.
Wealthy men in the San Francisco Bay Area make it a sport to look poorer than reality because it's in our culture. We're the ones who pioneered Casual Fridays during the dotcom era and popularized billionaires who wear hoodies and flip flops at work.
Wealthy guys looking for love just need to figure out whether the woman is interested in him or his money. We'll leave that topic for another post!
Women, how do you tell if a guy is rich if he doesn't display any wealth? Why do women overtly criticize wealthy men for being douchebags but secretly want to snag one of their own? What's wrong with men being rich and successful? Would you rather date a rich average looking guy, or a poor really good looking guy all else being equal?
Men, what are some of your strategies to look more low key? Have you ever met a woman who turned out to like your wealth more than you? Are you as encouraged as I am that a latest study shows that 44% of women are the primary breadwinners in a household now?
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You wont know somone best unless you’ve stuck through with them at there worst. That goes for both genders. End…
I am late 40s, I make about $250,000. each month. I don’t wear a watch. Right now, I am wearing inexpensive Columbia shorts, a simple fitted, inexpensive, American Apparel T-shirt, and classic Adidas footwear. I don’t wear logos if I can help it. I have a net worth much greater than Prince Harry, which I made independently of my immediate family, who are billionaires: we are in different industries. I don’t know how many vehicles I have, but three of them are Jeep Wranglers, two are Teslas, one is a Chevy pickup, there are others like Toyotas — I usually drive the Jeeps. I guess that I have a sufficient vocabulary. Nobody would ever know how much money I had, except for the very quiet donations I make to feed millions of people — I won’t use my real name in this reply. When I make donations, I do these donations discreetly. So, I guess, run a charity if you wish to find a wealthy guy, but many of us, in this category, go out of our way, to remain understated, and can’t stand being flashy. I’ve told my other wealthy buds, that charity organizations are a great way to meet great women that are compassionate, and helping others. I think we have been stalked too many times by women that are looking for money. Many of us understand that money does not buy happiness, but it is potential energy. We also don’t want to show off, or make others feel awkward. Extreme wealth can be a lonely club, and you want your friends included, so it is good to keep things toned down, and accessible, or relatable to others, or you get friends saying, “well, at-least you can afford that,” or “must be nice,” which is uncomfortable, and not something we want, and not empowering to others. When you can afford anything you want, you really don’t want much. I go fishing. I go camping. I have visited many countries, and at-least 45 states. There are occasions that I am expected to attend formal events, and I am very trained in etiquette and civility. I like inconspicuous consumption, but I am not cheap. I am not pushy, but I can be impatient, and I don’t take sh*t. I am very polite, and show the same respect to everyone from a janitor, to a ambassador. I like simplicity. If you are looking for a ultra high net worth individual, you have your work cut out. I only invite closer friends to my homes. A stranger would never, ever, know my financial situation. We pick up on the digging easily. I’ve had more than a few women ask what I drive, and I usually say, “a Jeep.” They usually end up with the guy that has a BMW, in a suit. Some of us don’t need to wear suits, because the suits work for us. Good luck. Life is short. Help folks, find happiness, and love, not dollars.
Thanks for the comment John it was useful ! As someone who is looking to learn more about business and learning how I can become financially free. How would I go about getting a potentially wealthy mentor ?
And let me guess you’re single and sweet and probably not on match.com are you ? Lol. Well there went my shot ever being rich, lol, but I DID enjoy reading your comments . Thanks!
“I don’t take sh*t”
This choice of wording implies that you may not be being completely truthful, while there are exceptions most people with the qualities you describe would prefer to say something like “I am not a pushover”, “I project strength”, or “I don’t suffer fools”.
Then again, most would also not post in the comments, and the only reason most would have even come across this article is to skim read and check the “habits” that gold diggers might use to identify them and make sure they aren’t accidentally projecting their wealth without realizing.
I hate wealthy! I like straight my family! I’m born hearing and my brother was with me when I was 7 years old and accident. I was in coma for two month ago. I’m deaf can’t hear anything nothing but I can speak some not all. I had been married 3th . I’m doing ok notice my husband gone without me on his vacation. He didn’t took me out yet. I don’t understand why. I wish go out myself but I can’t because I already know not safe for me. I want you’re my good friend as good. I’m Anne . I’m 57 years old. Keep as good friends. ❤️ Please not for me . Good luck hope to find right women!
So many I’s in your comment. Doesn’t seem very high society to me. Most upper class persons would try not to use so many I’s in their written posts as it looks too self-centered. But what do I know anyways, I am just a middle class bloke like you..
Well, to be fair, he didn’t claim to be a part of high society, or even wealthy for that matter. The story doesn’t exactly add up to me either. Quite frankly, some weird garbage such as “I am very trained in etiquette and civility”. You’re either raised into these attributes or you’re not. By the time you’re an adult, they’re done naturally and autonomously without prior consideration of the act. The story just includes too many conspicuous details that sound like stereotypical perceptions portrayed by average people about the rich. The probability of someone in his acclaimed position to type as much as he did about his life’s circumstances would be strange. Instead, he’d probably write what points in the article that he considers to be wrong, and maybe give a few unlisted ideas.
Thank you for donating to feed those folks. That is really lovely. You seem very down to earth. Do you have any advice for someone who keeps stumbling onto wealthy potential partners and is worried about getting into a relationship with such a large power differential? I really only want to be able to see the kids go to a decent school and us be able to retire in a decent nursing home. Serious wealth is…intimidating. I never knew what to do with my wealthy classmates. I’ve known very lovely people from all sorts of backgrounds…and real monsters, as well. I don’t know…just what do you do exactly, if you end up with an abusive spouse, who is singularly responsible for the endowment for the local domestic violence shelter? And also, what if you end up being the trophy wife/husband and he replaces you when you hit 50 and get jowls and you’ve given the primary years of your work career to raising your children? Am I supposed to just say to him, sorry, honey, I can’t be a stay at home spouse, just in case you turn out to be a creep and divorce me later on, I need some savings. I don’t like the idea of planning for that worst case scenario, but in my sociology class, I found out that most divorced women live in poverty. Even if everything goes well between the two of you, and it’s a real love match, and you’re both stick with the relationship and grow together…how on earth can you expect to be accepted by his family if he comes from old money? I don’t want to embarrass him and put our children at a disadvantage because I’m culturally inept. I know my poor(er) family members are going to embarrass the shit out of themselves and be jealous as hell (as they are of our wealthier family members) and it’ll just be gross for everyone. Why do all these cute bi guys work in finance?
I am in my 50s and I make 12000-15000 a month, I do not even dare looking at any woman, needless to say it would be insulting her when I can barely support myself and my children with that income. One day my kids will probably hate me for being poor despite my good manners and excellent education. I can speak five languages and soon six but I could not manage to build enough wealth through my life despite I made many around me very rich whenever they asked me for financial advice… sad truth.
So whenever a woman seems interested I just vanish to save her time and save myself shame… somehow they tend to think that I am secretely rich but I am obviously not, all the contrary. And the more I hide the more they insist till they finally give up.
I wish everyone the best in your quest for love with a rich partner but be aware that most out there are not, most are deeply buied in debt.
While this post is quite old, what I have learned about identifying wealthy men from those who appear to be, but are not is this: it is nearly impossible. Perhaps, solely within the state I live in. Stealth wealth is common and the wealthy go to great lengths to shield any kind of indicator of their net worth, at least here that is. Indicators of wealth tend to be within the nuances. Their etiquette, mannerisms, how to they communicate both via text message and in face-to-face conversation. The degree to which they expend respect for other individuals, and so on.
In terms of shoes, watches and cars that is not always the greatest indicator of wealth. Subtle hints and drops of insight about their family life, homes and land owned, travels and experiences went on can indicate their wealth. Those of astronomical wealth have been trained to be discreet. We can say several wealthy men are intelligent and observant, they know there are opportunistic women who will pounce on their chance to marry into an inheritance. Given they are intelligent, from what I have learned, they learn the game women play before she even plays it with them.
Some wealthy men choose the simple life. Modest cars and homes. Others, have an affinity for the arts. They choose luxury cars, carefully crafted homes and art pieces.
When I first met my partner, the greatest indicator of his and his families wealth was his manners. He drove and still drives a very modest car, lives in a very modest home and yet is uber wealthy. When he shared with me his and his families wealth, I nearly choked on my tequila and died right there. And, to add, I never knew his true financial status until much later into the relationship.
So, to the ladies looking for a wealthy man, learn that many are highly intelligent and many require you to be so also. Mannerism and etiquette matter, after all, you are now entering the upper echelon of society. But above all, learn how to value a man for who he is and not his financial status. Wealthy men are not a means to loan forgiveness, a lavish lifestyle or cars. They are simply: human wanting to be loved. Treat them as such, and maybe you will share in their wealth…one day.
Said from a woman who is a millionaire (before he came along) alongside her partner who is one individually also.
You make some good points and best comment by far. Just to add, when I met my millionaire husband to be, I had no idea of his status for a while. There were NO indicators at all. In fact he seemed very common, dressed down-no fancy labels
shopped at the discount stores, rented his modest house, drove a modest car and swore a lot (we are still working on that one), and I was the well educated, well spoken and well mannered one, but in between all that, I noticed he was very intelligent, had a lot of unusual skills and is very confident and positive in his approach towards life. So you can imagine how shocked I was to discover he was a multi millionaire. Turns out he didnt feel the need to spend spend spend and just wanted a relationship where he genuinely felt loved. He has been my rock ever since and we genuinely take of each other. Yes we recently bought a house and cars for ourselves. So we are comfortable but not flash. I never bring up his wealth, we just get on with things as normal. Rich men are out there but you can’t always tell, there are no definite indicators to go by.
Just because she turns you away or doesn’t give a second look when you’re about 3 scores away from looking like a hobo or guy who lost all his fortunes, doesn’t mean all girls are GDs.
If you saw a girl with a beautiful face but holes in her shirt and old stains all ove her jeans, would you think you’d approach her?
Exactly.
Instead think like this: You can’t expect to attract the best, if you don’t show off at least “some” of your best. After all, winners attract winners. Right?
Guys give girls such a bad wrap about women, when guys are waaay worse and find all kinds of tactics to get women, whom they don’t know or have feelings for, but are simply overtly attracted to, into bed. lol.
Don’t complain about the attraction not being as fever pitched on “normal guy” site, when you would never be as fever pitched to a beautiful girl, covering up as much as a nun.
I’d actually probably find her more attractive, lol.
This is an old post, but I thought I’ve been thinking about this very topic of late having recently gotten into the dating scene myself. I keep hearing stories about women looking for men with money, but as a woman who men like to show their money to, I have to wonder what makes wealthy men attractive. For myself, it would be really nice to date someone for whom money is not an issue simply because it would allow us to focus on things other than money including learning from experiences, having intelligent conversations and bonding over shared values. I’m not speaking of finding someone who is careless with money as I don’t want to be a sugar mama any more than a man wants to be a sugar daddy. Instead I’m interested in a guy for whom the whole ‘am I a good provider’ question has been answered, even though I don’t need him to provide for me. It’s more about the attitude and self-assurance that someone at that level has since they no longer need to prove anything to anyone. Would I date someone with that attitude and self-assurance that makes $25K a year as a teacher? Absolutely! Just my 2 cents.
Like most things, it’s really person to person. There are quite a number of women who want the finer things in life and want to be taken care of by a man. There are quite a number of women who find that mentality shallow and are quite the opposite. Quite right!
Sounds like these very pathetic Gold Digging women need money so very badly.
Doesn’t sound like well off folks we meet here. Ppl are pretty open. I was told bad things, about how ppl here are so stuck up, and everything is so expensive. Rich ppl, yes, but such nice ppl, the area is very clean, and customer service is so great compared to a cheap area we lived at. It is more expensive, but more expensive makes sense. Food and other stuff is the same price. Movies the same price but the theaters are beautiful, seats are comfy leather and clean, smells nice, lobby is beautiful, and lobby always shows movies. Food is better quality. Fastfood places look more like restaurants or just way cleaner. Lots of well off kids and we got along well with them. They are very respectful, clean, and share. Our experience at the old place was an opposite. We lived in the area with ppl on benefits and those kids were usually mean, messy, and paranoid about sharing (cant blame them, though). I mean, it was cheap to live there and we were in the shopping area with a movie theater. We just didnt know that some places are better, we liked the price. I expected to move to an area with stuck up people but I am so happy we live here now. Rent is high but its worth it(very limited apartments and bigger homes, so you pay based on that.). We got everything here and its all beautiful, including the people. Makes me wanna be a better person and make more money(aka do more with my life). Rich kids here are so well behaved, school is ranked high and is very pretty).
This reminded me of something.
We have a membership to an amusement park. Due to having small kids, we dont need fast passes yet. Will next year. So if we go on big rides, have to stand in line with the rest of the regular folks. So we got stuck in one line on a ride we never did before. There was an African American (assumed) family right in front of us. They had lots of flashy stuff on them, like baby phat clothes (which kids in highschool used to love), LV glasses on the mother, and Gucci shoes and one had sliders. They were obnoxiously loud about the stuff they had on, including pointing out very loudly what the sunglasses were (it mightve been another “expensive” brand but cant remeber). 1. The stuff was fake, and Ive seem some well made fake stuff, but this wasn’t it. 2. We were stuck with them for almost 30 mins and they never stopped talking about their expensive stuff (never experienced it before). 3. If you are that rich, get a fast pass.But I know why they didnt…
Poor people acting rich is not cute. Just act like a decent human being and respect others. For example, dont be obnoxiously loud in line, because no one is intrested in your business. Grown ppl acting pathetic. We, being annoyed, made fun of their fake stuff in another language. We know our stuff, you cant fake it. (Not rich myself but I hate fakers). I know rich ppl going ro that park, they all have an annual fast pass, and I have to buy a daily pass if I ever go with anyone without the kids. No one wears Gucci on a rollercoaster ride, thats such a brainless move. No one leaves designer sunglasses at the cubby for a ride, it will get stolen. Those things are left in your car or a safe box at the park is rented.
Moral of the story, beware of fakers! There is a benefit of having well off friends, they often offer to buy your stuff( lile a toy your kid really wants, an icecream for your kid and theirs, a drink for you, or sometimes covering your whole meal), they are always positive, they are caring and will always try to help (unless they realize you are using them, tbey have good connections, and they are well behaved. Fakers will bot be any of those things or are just not rich enough to be that open spirited and versatile . Also, rich avoid people with less money for obvious reasons. Unless you go to the same places or your kids are friends, I dont see why youd be friends. If you were rich, youd understand. People like to use people. Better be safe than sorry. Im not rich but its okay. Just be you, and be with ppl from all backgrounds. Dont fake it and dont go around looking for someone with a big wallet. Also, being poor is nor an excuse to act like trash.
Maybe I’m the odd one out as a Korean woman but I’ve always looked for men who made me feel happy and who had good integrity (that means a person that doesn’t lie, cheat, steal, hurt others). I never cared about the $ they made. Instead of looking for signs of wealth, I scanned for signs of integrity and how smart they are. Intelligent, well educated men are incredibly sexy to me as are their good moral qualities. That “chinese guy” I dated when I was 18 yrs old had both integrity and knowledge, and I am happy I went with the right choice because I am treated like a queen to this day and we live with above average 6 figure salary. $ you can earn, a person with integrity is nearly impossible to get.
So true!
No clue why you made it about race but that doesn’t surprise me. It’s not because you are “Korean” or because he is “Chinese”. People are different all over the world. Grow up a bit.
Dude that’s normal lingo for us Asians, it’s not racially aggravated at all
I like what Shaun and Michelle had to say in this thread.
This article does not reflect anyone I know, male or female.
In response to FS’s questions:
Q: Women, how do you tell if a guy is rich if he doesn’t display any wealth?
Not applicable. Rich is not something I’m scanning for. I look for professional, articulate and well-groomed. And in reality, I don’t want a partner who spends a lot more than I do, because that can cause conflicts over lifestyle choices I’m not comfortable paying my half on.
Q: Why do women overtly criticize wealthy men for being douchebags but secretly want to snag one of their own?
Not applicable. I don’t criticize people for being wealthy. And I don’t know anyone who would want a douchebag, even if s/he were rich. I wouldn’t.
Q: What’s wrong with men being rich and successful?
Nothing! I love seeing men & women create their own success. And I consider myself one of them.
Q: Would you rather date a rich average looking guy, or a poor really good looking guy all else being equal?
Of these two artificially binary options, I would choose rich/average. I would also choose some other combos. Essentially, he needs to be able to support himself (because I won’t), and we also need to be compatible in how we make spending decisions.
FS – With the douchebag stuff, you might be confusing wealth and behaviour.
Wealth + nice behaviour = Awesome
Wealth + bad behaviour = Douchebag
Or just remove the wealth variable and you’ll notice the same result. ;)
On our first date, a guy constantly droped numbers to impress me, and braged about how other women threw themselves at him for money. I then asked him whether he knew Wendy Whitehead, he said ‘no’. So I told him how Wendy made herself a billionaire with the help of her husband, and I have been looking for my own “Mr. Whitehead”. He shut up.
yeah he thought to himself, even mr whitehead wont help for this thatianna
Wealthy guys looking for love just need to figure out whether the woman is interested in him or his money. We’ll leave that topic for another post!
Still waiting for that post!
Yeah… this article is for men stupid enough to get married in a one-way modern society with the state…
I am a millionaire and I dress like a bum. I have long hair, full beard, flirt with anyone I want..
The best part about this is I’m in psychological research… So I know what’s up. The only people that are having trouble are the girls at the coffee shop I visit, at least five times a day. They’re undeniably perplexed.
It’s the best feeling in the world to know when someone has no fucking clue. The best part about this is I love my solitude and wouldn’t trade it for anything.
The good thing about being wealthy is I can flaunt it with my father’s Rolex(gift) and my Dodge Challenger(gift) and I get laid(I’m not very attractive.Then, telling women that i don’t own squat and I love to watch their reactions! p.s I don’t intend on getting married unless she was intelligent(uncommon).
What about the rappers like Kendrick Lamar (at least those who dress like bums but have CEO money), hell what about those that own and actively co and operate Slaughter houses? If you know anything about slaughter houses, you know that they literally rake money off their lawn (after the feces is cleared up of course). ANd I can bet you they dress like blue collar bums but probably live in million dollar homes? Then how can you tell the difference between million dollar bums and $10 bums?
Oh my, I accidentally came across this page. wtf. Gonna go to bed sad now. Disappointed with the human race.
This drives me nuts: “Wealthy men in the San Francisco Bay Area make it a sport to look poorer than reality because it’s in our culture. We’re the ones who pioneered Casual Fridays during the dotcom era and popularized billionaires who wear hoodies and flip flops at work”. Absolutely correct but, unfortunate. I grew up in the sixties. Almost no one wore black clothing, t-shirts or sweatshirts. I’m in the company of foreigners all the time and occasionally I will hear about what “sloppy” and “slovenly” poor dressers men are in the US. My wife has pointed out how this type of heinous dressing comes from men today not wanting to appear to look gay. I have to agree, although while gay’s used to dress well they now dress just as badly as everyone else. Hearken back to the “Rat Pack” days. Guys in that era were proud of the way they dressed and knew how to do it. They could match clothes well. Yes, men have always had a tougher time coordinating than women but, compared to today, forget it. Men today know how to throw on a black t-shirt or anything black or grey and jeans and that’s about it. Oh, don’t forget sports clothing. My father never wore a t-shirt and always had on a collard shirt. While it may be hard to believe and yes, I’m proud of this, I don’t own a single item of black clothing, not one! I also don’t own any t-shirts except for white that I wear under my shirt. Also, my kids aren’t allowed to wear t-shirts out side the house and they never have. My three kids have been given many nice compliments about how they dress and they love it. When I get dirty around the house it’s always in an old polo. Perhaps it’s time to throw away the t-shirts and sweats. Just one wealthy man’s opinion.
None of what you say is true. The modern dress down look comes from two things: 1) an attempt to revolt against the work society that we saw kill our parents despite very much being a part of it 2) simply wanting to be comfortable.
Another wealthy man has an opinion too, Zuckerberg wears t-shirts and jeans. Are you that wealthy? Guess not.
Seek Jesus and HE will solve all of your problems, nothing else will. God Bless.
MAN, this entire article is pretty much how to turn yourself into a good golddigger without looking too susceptible. When I get rich, I’m just gonna take a day to walk around looking like a raggidty hobo and smell real bad just with a guy who’s dressed the part of a rich fella just to see how many hoes I find in one day. Because if your love life is based on a man with a 100k+ salary, then is the markings of a hoe and you can never be truly happy, don’t care what you say. Because after all, you liked him first because he was well off right?
Me too man. Once I hit $100k, I am buying a big ass house (full payment, no mortgage), two cars, a fancy ass GMC and a crappy little honda. And I will be abusing that honda. And I will still dress like I came from the hood (not the designer version, the 80s no worth version). but smelling good. At least you can definetely tell who’s real about love and who’s real about money.
100k+ annual income (salary) isn’t that much money and it certainly isn’t wealth.
thats relative, 100k a year is pretty huge salary, and makes you in top 1 or 3 percent of the world’s population. And for a single man who pays 300 a month in rent for example for 1 room, you can make many huge projects, and also use money to do some chameleon stuff. On the other hand, safe route, or social route, where you invest in real estate, get mortgages, pay for cars, that money can feel like 0. It depends on the area, your decisions and vision. Ofc its not much if you invest it via safe route, where it nets you 4 percent yearly, so to get 1 mil portfolio you need many years, even if you dont spend it. But if you go aggro and you are young with no kids or wife, you can pull offs some cool projects. the thing is, do you like it, because for someone who does not want to start businesses, work on certain projects, better don’t, in the end, doing what makes your brain fire up is important
Interesting article Sam.
Some agree and some disagree here, this day and age if you’re hoping to date a young girl in the USA nice guys are certainly not rewarded, the mating culture is actually quite the opposite. In fact being a “douchebag” is practically a good thing.
We even wrote about this in relative detail, basically all girls call their ex boyfriends… Wait for it…douchebags! (D-bags for short, proud to be d-bags for sure). So basically most douchebags actually end up having healthy sex lives (fulfilling we can leave up to debate).
Will try to peruse the blog more, interesting observations nonetheless.
Oh one final one, food for thought, if you have no interest in marriage/kids…it kind of kills the stealth wealth (avoiding gold digger problems) because simply put… who cares if she knows at that point.
Spot on both accounts! Nailed it. Girls aren’t attracted to nice guys despite what they say. Girls have a tendency to say one thing but react to the opposite.
And if you’re just trying to get laid, flaunt it baby!
change the title to, “The Gold Digger’s Guide to digging deep into a man to find out if he’s made of Gold”
Yes, that would be much more appropriate, also mention that you don’t mind using your wealth as leverage for power and domination in the relationship, but most guys like dominance.
Watches can be a massive giveaway of wealth – working in the finance industry I have learnt to recognise and appreciate some of the more popular or iconic timepieces and researched enough to hold a short conversation about them (despite there being no way I can justify owning one myself).
This actually comes in more handy with clients than co-workers…it’s amazing how many clients I see who will claim to be financially struggling, but are wearing watches worth more than my monthly salary. Complementing them on their watch and asking a relevant question lets them know that I know enough about their attire that they aren’t telling me the whole truth.
I really like your post. It livens up what is usually a boring subject. Btw, I like boring too, and read a lot of boring personal finance articles.
For women who want to follow this advice, though, a few caveats. Like everything, this is work. Identify a good watch? Takes work. There are so many watches out there, let alone brands. I’d add shoes as well. Many wealthy men have good shoes. But it is work to know enough to identify good shoe brands as well.
And then there’s the limited chance to have the effort payoff. The number of men sporting nice shoes is low, and the number of false positives (men buying shoes with debt) is compounded by the number of wealthy men not wearing nice shoes. And many wealthy men don’t wear watches (or something stupid like a pebble). Plus, the chances of finding a five figure watch on a wrist of a single guy is pretty low. Btw, Rolex is typically a negative indicator (except Daytona in ss).
Much better odds I think (and probably more fun for women) is Princeton mom. Find someone smart and motivated, and marry before he earns his money and earn it together. statistics say that married men make more money, and smart men know this. And smart rich men who happen to be unmarried also know that getting married is of limited financial upside (they already made their money).
I have one friend who is wealthy and single and under 40 and looking to get married. There is a reason he is still unmarried!
Matt Hughes?
@Parlayjoe, that’s what I was thinking. I read ‘Made In America’, and Matt Hughes is a metaphor for America, right, wrong, good, bad, and all points in between.
Sam, it’s true that there are women who are going out and looking for wealth. But I think that it’s more accurate to say that women prefer men who are in some sort of stable position, rather than needing an ultra-wealthy guy making a half million a year or with a 5 million dollar net worth. Those guys can be really cocky and it is off-putting.
There are also multiple reasons for being “poor.” If you are living paycheck-to-paycheck while raking in $100,000 a year, then I probably don’t want to date you. If you are into yoga and don’t believe in material possessions, then it is ok for you to be completing your umpteenth unpaid internship while definitely not supporting yourself. Granted, a golddigger would not really differentiate between the two, but a normal woman would.
I’ve dated rich guys and poor guys and normally the poor guys have better personalities and are kinder people. This is why there’s a stereotype that rich men are automatically douchebags. It has a tiny root in reality. It’s nice to date someone wealthy who wants to and is fully capable of paying for everything, but it’s not a requirement. Also, someone who has the idea that men are required to pay on dates tends to think in terms of rigidly defined gender roles, which means that he’s not open to being a stay at home parent while I keep my career. It’s all in what you want out of life or a relationship.
You might be right. But imagine finding that humble, kinda, funny rich guy. What a catch for any woman whose family will be set for life!
I always like to think of this situation from a parent’s point of view of a son or daughter looking.
You sound more on point out of all the guys nailed.
Just because she turns you away or doesn’t give a second look when you’re about 3 scores away from looking like a hobo or guy who lost all his fortunes, doesn’t mean all girls are GDs.
If you saw a girl with a beautiful face but holes in her shirt and old stains all ove her jeans, would you think you’d approach her?
Exactly.
Instead think like this: You can’t expect to attract the best, if you don’t show off at least “some” of your best. After all, winners attract winners. Right?
Guys give girls such a bad wrap about women, when guys are waaay worse and find all kinds of tactics to get women, whom they don’t know or have feelings for, but are simply overtly attracted to, into bed. lol.
Don’t complain about the attraction not being as fever pitched on “normal guy” site, when you would never be as fever pitched to a beautiful girl, covering up as much as a nun.
Fair enough?