The Best Thing About Trump’s Tax Plan: Earning Business Income!

The best thing about President Trump's tax plan is earning business income due to the 15% corporate tax rate.On Wednesday, April 26, 2017, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and National Economic Council director Gary Cohn announced President Trump's latest tax plan that proposes to cut corporate taxes and lower personal tax rates.

For anybody who has ever made money, you know that paying tax on your income is one of your largest ongoing lifetime expenses. A progressive tax system that taxed my income at a Federal + State marginal rate of over 50% during the Obama years was one of the catalysts for negotiating my severance and leaving the workforce for good in 2012. It didn't feel worthwhile anymore to work 60-70 hours a week and go through so much stress for the privilege of paying the government more than I kept.

What's even more amazing is that the vast majority of Americans save LESS than their effective tax rate! Can you imagine being taxed at a 20% effective rate when you can only save 6% of your after tax income? No wonder why so many people can't escape the Matrix. There are government officials who are laughing behind closed doors at the masses for saving so little and paying so much to the government.

US personal savings rate historical and up to 2017

Trump's Tax Plan

The irony of higher taxes is that it has empowered me and numerous other people to question the unhealthy desire for prestige and money and to retire early. Too many people are killing themselves at jobs they don't like just to be able to tell people they don't care about how powerful and rich they are.

Hello folks. Nobody cares if you are the Vice President of a fast food chain that helps contribute to the obesity of America. Nobody cares if you are the Head of Growth for a credit card lead generator that enslaves millions of Americans with 15% – 30% revolving lines of credit. Definitely nobody cares if you are the Head Of PR for a company whose founder lies, cheats, and mistreats women.

I can unequivocally say these past five years of not working for Corporate America have been the happiest times of my life. Now I can even join people in voting on legislation to raise taxes on other people without having to pay more taxes myself! I haven't yet, but how groovy is that?

With the revealing of the Trump tax proposals and their lower tax rates, however, I am fearful of being incentivized to actually find a job again after five years of early retirement!

Unfortunately, President Trump isn't really cutting income taxes for the majority of people, only the rich. However, another cohort benefiting the most from Trump's tax proposals is the large and small business owners of America. That's me: small business owner! And it can be any of you too, if you take my advice.

The Best Parts About Trump's Tax Plan

While details on Trump's tax plan are still sparse, based on the White House briefing, in order of awesomeness, here are the best parts:

1) Corporate tax rate of 15%: This is a MASSIVE cut from the current federal statutory rate of 35%. For profitable, publicly traded companies, they will see their retained earnings go up, their P/E valuations go down, and their share prices go up to trade in-line with historical averages. Stock market investors should benefit.

2) Allows pass-through rate for business owners: Instead of self-owned businesses being taxed at the personal income rate, business owners would have incomes from operations taxed at the 15% rate. Therefore, any individual making more than $37,650 in small business pass through income should see a 10% – 24.6% tax break ((39.6% – 25% current personal marginal income tax rate) – 15% proposal)!

3) Eliminate the estate tax: This would eliminate a tax on assets being transferred via a will after someone dies. Currently, any wealth you leave as an individual above $5.49M will get taxed at the highest federal and marginal tax rate. The number is double for married couples.

4) Repeal 3.8% tax on net investment income: With this repeal, no longer do you have to pay a 3.8% tax if you are an individual making over $200,000 or a married couple making over $250,000. I've always believed that $200,000 – $250,000 a year in annual household income is the sweet spot for maximum happiness, partly due to additional taxes when incomes breach these levels. Now Americans would be free to earn a little more without having to pay a penalty.

Net Investment Income Tax Threshold

5) Double the standard individual tax deduction: This would allow individual filers to deduct their first $12,700 in income from their taxes and $24,000 (almost double) for joint filers, as opposed to the current $6,350 for individuals and $12,700 for joint filers. This would be a GREAT change for the middle income taxpayers who don't have itemized deductions greater than the standard deduction amounts.

6) Repeal the alternative minimum tax: Abolishing the AMT would be great for the roughly 5 million tax filers who've seen their itemized deductions get eliminated because the government did not include an inflation adjuster when the AMT was first introduced in 1969. Instead of making sure only wealthier earners paid taxes, the AMT unintentionally ensnared millions of ordinary taxpayers.

7) A slight adjustment to individual tax rates: The top federal marginal tax rate would be cut from 39.6% down to 35%, which only helps the 1%. Meanwhile, there would be a 25% and a 10% tax bracket for a total of three federal tax brackets, down from seven brackets. Here's where people living in expensive cities making roughly $112,500 – $190,150 a year need to pay attention. This is because if you go from paying a 28% marginal federal tax rate to 35%, there's a chance this actually may be a tax hike.

8) A one-time repatriation tax holiday or cut: There are billions of dollars sitting overseas because companies like Apple don't want to repatriate the money because the tax level is too high. If the repatriation tax was lowered, the repatriated money could be used to hire more Americans and build more domestic factories. Even if the money is not used to hire more or build more in America, the money will at least go to stock buybacks and dividend payouts, which is good for shareholders.

Repatriation tax allowed for more earnings to come back to America

Start A Business Already!

Trump Tax Agenda 2017

I must be one lucky son of a gun because when I left my day job in 2012, I saw a gut-busting ~70% decline in my earnings. All I had was about $78,000 in passive income streams and some money coming in from my online media business to keep me afloat in expensive San Francisco. As a result, I was paying a reasonable 15% marginal Federal Tax rate because most of my passive income is shielded or taxed at a favorable rate.

After five years of hard work, without Trump's tax reform, for 2017 my S-Corp may be potentially paying the top 39.6% marginal federal income tax bracket. If the 15% corporate rate and pass-through gets approved for all small business owners, then I could conceivable earn a $50,000+ tax windfall every year the tax policy is in place!

Being an entrepreneur is already amazing due to the freedom it allows and the satisfaction gained from creating something from nothing. But to now be able to make the same amount as a W2 employee and pay a 10% – 24.6% lower federal income tax rate is freaking AWESOME!

With the increased cash flow, I plan to hire more freelance workers to grow my business. I'll add some new features to the website, create new products, produce more content, introduce new multi-media content, and attend more events. By plowing back more money into my business, the business should grow even further and help even more people. How great is that?

If you don't have a business idea, go from being a full-time employee to a contractor who gets hired back by your employer. Incorporate yourself, and voilà! Less taxes and more freedom to work with multiple clients.

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Brian - Rental Mindset

I’m going to wait to see if it passes before celebrating. But it would be an awesome financial windfall for me too.

One thing I don’t get is the cutting of the tax brackets down to 3. Why? That is hardly the complicated thing about the tax code. And as you said, some middle of the pack people’s taxes will go up!

Dave
Dave
7 years ago

Hi Sam, thanks for all of the insight into the presidents proposed tax cuts. It will be interesting to see how this all works out. I am happy that I started a LLC in 2017.

mercury
mercury
7 years ago

I think it is too early to start celebrating or crying (depending upon your position).

As a side note, the proposal to eliminate state tax deductions is literally a double-taxation. Let’s say you make $100k and pay 10% in state taxes and then 30% federal (effective). If you are unable to deduct your state tax, you will give $10k to the government and then your $10k will get taxed again! On top of that, the high-tax rate states, such as NY and CA are already subsidizing the red states with tax subsidies, so this is yet another subsidy. It’s hard for me to imagine that this is not political.

That being said, back to my first point, this is all going to get negotiated anyways and it’s hard to predict what will end up getting finalized, if anything. Currently, they are unable to even bring the healthcare laws to a vote, so I am not contemplating any serious changes in business planning yet.

mercury
mercury
7 years ago

I read that when you originally released that and agree with that! It’s also why I continue to buy real estate outside of Manhattan.

If this all does go through, hopefully it will encourage people in NYC and CA to leave quicker…particularly, the wealthy!

Frustrated in WA
Frustrated in WA
7 years ago

I refuse to concede that 1 sheet of paper with double spaced bullet points constitutes a plan. It does stimulate debate and get your enemies to disclose their boundary positions while simultaneously hiding what your other hand is doing.

Brian Chong, CPA
7 years ago

As an owner of a successful CPA practice in San Jose, I’d love it if I and my clients paid less tax. However, taxes are the primary source of revenue for the government, so how are they going to balance the budget if they cut taxes?

The best solution to have a national sales tax and abolish the current tax regime. I wrote my Master’s degree in Taxation thesis paper on this topic. If the government taxes consumption instead of income, their tax revenue would be less volatile and tax collection would be easier to enforce. There is $2 trillion of income in the underground and shadow economy (drug dealers, cash employees, etc.) that goes unreported every year. If the government taxed spending instead of income, those tax evaders would finally start paying their fair share.

-Brian

MachineGhost
MachineGhost
7 years ago
Dave
Dave
7 years ago

This is a tax hike for those living in high state tax states with a large number of dependents who depend on W2 income and cannot convert into flow-through income. In other words, medical doctors, lawyers, engineers, financial workers etc. who live in New York and California and have a family of 2 will get absolutely no benefit from this tax plan. The standard deduction goes up, but the personal exemptions for each dependent goes away and state taxes won’t be deducted.

Those who have the luxury of converting their W2 income into flow-through income will receive a huge windfall and further exaggerate the inequality in our society. Glad you’ll be using the extra money to grow your business, but I have a feeling most will just pocket it and buy another Ferrari or spend 50k on a luxury vacation to the Maldives instead.

Levon
Levon
7 years ago

This is just excellent – I especially like the part where you say we pay more to the government than we save for ourselves! This is unheard of throughout history and just crazy.

People should at least put a ton in things like 401ks and IRAs to save pre-tax, but that’s beyond the scope of this article.

Small business is truly a great thing – you’re far more in control and you might now end up paying less in taxes. Even if you have a full-time job you should still think about business and if you can incorporate it into your life.

Dave
Dave
7 years ago
Reply to  Levon

For the lucky few who are statistical outliers in creating and maintaining a small business, you are correct — this will be a beautiful, great tax cut. But most businesses need employees and not everyone in society can be a business owner (by definition). More likely these days, businesses are harder to create as incumbent advantages and inequalities in opportunities grow deeper. Endowing the winners of society with even more rewards while cutting the safety net for the “loser” employees seems nothing more than a cash grab to me. For those who believe in the Laffer curve, this is great, but as demonstrated in Kansas the Laffer curve seems concocted to create a “feel good” rationale for an unabashed cash grab.

Levon
Levon
7 years ago
Reply to  Dave

You’re right – taxes should be lower for everyone, not just small business owners. People who are earning income via their labor are making more than investors who are making multiples of employment/labor income.

Levon
Levon
7 years ago
Reply to  Levon

…are paying more*

ZJ Thorne
ZJ Thorne
7 years ago
Reply to  Dave

Thank you! Not everyone is cut out to be an entrepreneur. We need to be able to hire people. If the folks we hire are screwed by taxes, they are more likely to be distracted by the vicissitudes of life and less productive while at work. I don’t think I should get all the benefits available because of my LLC; other folks need to do well in the system, too.

Levon
Levon
7 years ago

Yes, this is truly astonishing. Just 100 years ago this would have been unimaginable in the United States. If you told someone at the turn of the 20th century that one day the US government would take 20% of person’s income — and that states and municipalities would take some of it too — they would probably not believe that such a thing could be possible. We have allowed things to get a bit too far possibly.

Viking
Viking
7 years ago

There is no way this will pass as proposed, it’s a giant middle finger to high cost of living states, where upper middle class people would get a tax increase due to elimination of itemized deductions while rich people and corporations nationwide get a massive tax cut.

Those states (NY, CA, etc) have a lot of Republican congressman in affluent areas. Those republicans will not vote for extending the middle finger to their constituents, since that would result in losing the next election.

Duncan's Dividends
Duncan's Dividends
7 years ago

I would love to see this go through and think that maybe when all is said and done parts of it will get put through. There is too much political bickering right now and the opposition party has pretty much said they will fight everything he puts through tooth and nail. We will see with time, but I think that if they do get something through it will be a bastardized and somewhat watered down version of what we see currently.

Mike
7 years ago

This article really broke down this news thoroughly…do you know how many Americans will benefit from the new standard deduction? How much $ will that save people?

Peter Berardi
Peter Berardi
7 years ago
Reply to  Mike

The higher standard deduction using 24,000 for a joint return will benefit many Americans because something close to 70% of America does not itemize. However, the issue I have is Trump wants to eliminate personal exemptions which is $4,050 per person on the return. That was not mentioned in his address nor has it been mentioned. If the personal exemption holds up along with the standard deduction of $24k, that may very well provide some tax relief for the middle class. Keep in mind that middle class in Columbus,OH is not the same as middle class in SF. By eliminating deductions on state/local/real estate taxes, that would force those who do itemize to have more than 24,000 per year in mortgage interest and charitable deductions alone. That’s a large hurdle for even SF homeowners. Middle class or upper middle class people certainly own homes with 8-10k in real estate taxes and pay 10k in state income tax. My feeling is those making $125-200k and own a nice home in a nice town will get hit hard if this passes. In my world, $125-200k is not wealthy but affluent middle class.

dan f
dan f
7 years ago

I am betting on the Republicans crashing and burning before passing this insane piece of legislation. Also, there is zero chance that small business owners will only be taxed once at 15% on their profits. That would be the very furthest thing from revenue neutral and I doubt the “true believers” in the Freedom Caucus could swallow that. They killed Paul Ryan’s moronic health care plan and they’re going to kill this piece of crap too. At least there’s still a few Republicans who care more about the greater good than their pocketbooks (dying breed through).

Your First Million
Your First Million
7 years ago

Trump’s tax plan, I must say, is the best thing since sliced bread. IF… business taxes are reduced to a flat rate of 15% for ALL businesses (as Trump claims it would), this will be a huge stimulus to the economy. On a more micro side, this is a great chance for someone to increase their income and reduce their effective tax rate.

If you want to build wealth, a simple formula is to increase your income without increasing your expenses. Start a home based business that you can supplement your income with. If you are only paying 15% tax on the income you generate from your business (while you are paying 25-39.5% on your earned income), your overall effective tax rate on your total income will become less than what you were previously paying on your previous income before you started the business. Again… increase your income by starting a business you can operate in addition to your current job, keep your expenses low, and invest the additional cash flow. This is how you get your ball rolling, and Trump is offering a great tax incentive to do this.

From a macro standpoint, Trump’s business tax cut plan offers and amazing opportunity for ANYONE… including the rich, middle class and even the poor.

What this means for the rich: They will start more businesses, invest more in their current businesses, higher more people, make more money and pay less taxes. This will be major boost to the economy.

What this means for the middle class: This tax break will be a great incentive for people to start their own home based/side business. This will bring in more income to middle class households, increase consumer spending etc… this will also boost the economy.

What this means for the poor: More jobs will be available from the new businesses that were started. More workers means more people paying taxes. In theory, a business tax cut would eventually increase overall tax revenue from more businesses and more jobs springing up.

We haven’t even mentioned the personal income tax bracket changes and tax code simplification that would come along with the plan either. Personally, my income taxes under the new plan would be reduced significantly.

Peter Berardi
Peter Berardi
7 years ago

Rest assured, the final version will not have a 15% tax rate on passive income for small businesses based on these replies alone. Keep in mind that all profitable business income gets taxed and the after tax income becomes capital or equity on a balance sheet. Any owner can take tax free distributions on their capital as long as they don’t exceed that capital balance.

The business owner should not pay 15% while his employees could be paying 25-28%. If this passes, I will go out and buy any franchise and pay myself nothing to expose my entire profit to 15%. This comes under the heading of “Too good to be true”.

Your First Million
Your First Million
7 years ago
Reply to  Peter Berardi

“If this passes, I will go out and buy any franchise and pay myself nothing to expose my entire profit to 15%.”

I think this is the point…. more people doing just what you said… buying/starting a business, which means more jobs, and more businesses and jobs for the gov’t to tax. Everybody’s happy.

MachineGhost
MachineGhost
7 years ago

I think you missed the point. He would tax shelter. As others have point out with Kansas, taxpayers just used the lower pass-thru rate to shelter taxes and not increase business formation nor employment. Since no FICA is paid on pass-thru income, it could have a seriously detrimental effect on SS and Medicaid/Medicare funding.

If Trump wasn’t such an insecure man-child with a short attention span, true comprehensive tax reform such as the FairTax could have been presented rather than some slapdash outline generated with just two days notice due to that OpEd from the Laffer Curve groupies in the WSJ.

John Wilder
7 years ago

Anything that lowers overall tax and compliance burden on those that produce jobs and drive the economy is good – and it’s also good when the middle class has jobs. Which, those that produce jobs generally make – a virtuous circle.

And, at some point there is cake.

Let’s go!

Marcos
Marcos
7 years ago

Great coverage Sam. This is a win for the American people.

Some argue that this helps lower ‘Big Business’ taxes.

Honestly, this will massively help the ‘little guy’ small business, so I don’t care about that. We need more small businesses to thrive so that so many of us don’t need to sell ourselves to a 9-5 job.

Thanks!

Jon
Jon
7 years ago

Doing my quick back of the envelope, assuming that the income brackets remain the same as the original proposal and that a taxpayer only takes the state tax deduction, it looks like the break even in CA to the current tax regime is around $375K of income. After that point, it is actually a TAX HIKE! Lower than $375K higher standard deduction ($12.7K to $24K) protects you from not being able to deduct your state taxes.

Given that this is basically just a massive wealth transfer from high tax states to low tax states, I just don’t see how it can go through politically. I’d think the SALT deduction is even harder to pass than mortgage deductibility.

Brian Chong, CPA
7 years ago
Reply to  Jon

Hi Jon,
At the $375K income level, there’s AMT and because state taxes are an addback item, the state tax deduction wouldn’t change your Federal taxes.

NinjaPiggy
7 years ago

Great post! Do you think, with the proposed tax changes, people should reassess whether Roth contributions make more sense given the lower tax rates? Our political system tends to be pretty cyclical, so even if the tax changes pass, if/when Democrats take control in the future, I’d expect taxes to go up (eventually) in the future. But, who knows? Maybe the tax cuts will be here to stay for good.

Are you making any changes to your stance on Roth IRAs? I completely agree with your previous assessments on the issue, but want to see if this changes anything for you.

FinancePatriot
FinancePatriot
7 years ago

Great idea about being a contractor. I have a friend who did this ,quit his job in 1998 and just became a contractor to the same business owner. He loves raising his rate as well as writing off expenses he couldn’t otherwise deduct as an employee, plus the massive increase in deductions he can get from his solo 401k as opposed to an employer 401k.

I really like the idea of the pass thru income. As you stated, that is a huge benefit for small business owners. As my blog continues to grow and get more readers, the income will also go up and this will benefit me greatly.

Austin
Austin
7 years ago

I keep seeing people commenting that this will increase the deficit, and asking “where are going to get back all this lost revenue?”

Shouldn’t we ALL be in favor of lower taxes, and instead of worrying about where the money will come from…worry about cutting spending?

Brent
Brent
7 years ago
Reply to  Austin

Austin, it’s easy to talk about “cutting spending” in generalities but where do the actual cuts come from?

Let’s not forget that Trump was elected under the premise that he would build a border wall ($21-70 billion), invest $1 trillion into infastructure, keep the key provisions of Obamacare (insurance for everyone, no cuts to Medicaid, no one will be made worse off financially), and increase defense spending by $54 billion a year. So where are the cuts coming from? If anything, I see budget increases.

There is waste and corruption in government no doubt as in any large scale enterprise but I believe government has a vital role to play that cannot be filled in the private sector in: 1) ensuring the availability of health-care for all (there is no economic or moral reason to have health care tied to employment), 2) maintaining a viable infastructure for commerce, 3) protecting our environment, and 4) ensuring the long-term health of social security so that the majority of the population who has not adequately saved for retirement is not destitute when they can no longer work. These things all cost money and are all important to the long-term survival of our nation. To these we should all be happy to pay taxes (while maintaining a watch-dog eye to ensure that waste and corruption does not take place).

Dynx
Dynx
7 years ago
Reply to  Brent

The cuts will have to come in healthcare and social security. Won’t happen for political reasons.
Since those are going down anyway you might as well keep as much of your own money so you and yours are taken care of when cuts are forced by financial reality.

Tristan
Tristan
7 years ago
Reply to  Austin

If we force the government to spend within their means, how do we pay janitors and elevator technicians $250,000 a year?

Brent
Brent
7 years ago

Yay! America can become the next Kansas now. I love trillion dollar budget deficits so that rich people can pay slightly less in taxes.

Luckily this one-page “tax plan” fever dream of Goldman supply-siders has less than 0% chance of actually passing. Where are the votes in the Senate?

MachineGhost
MachineGhost
7 years ago
Reply to  Brent

Those Goldman “supply-siders” are all Democrats. So that’s not a valid criticism. You sound like you’re fear-mongering or regurgitating talking points. Try some critical analysis for a change.

And BTW, states don’t have a central bank willing to finance deficit spending as the Treasury does, so its a different operational reality for states vs the Feds. Deficits do matter there. But Republicans don’t understand that any more than Democrats do.

Brent
Brent
7 years ago
Reply to  MachineGhost

I would love to see how the CBO scores this “plan.” Would you agree that it’s pretty hard to create some in-depth criticism of a one-page bullet pointed piece of paper which borrows heavily on failed Kansas experiments? I think a college kid with a 5 hour deadline could come up with something more in-depth.

Who knew tax reform could be so complicated?

Brent
Brent
7 years ago
Reply to  Brent

Comments per Alan Cole, one of the Tax Foundation’s staff economists on the new Trump proposal.

“Pass-through taxes are decently well-structured as they are, and it’s probably best to leave them alone,” Cole said. He told me that, according to the foundation’s model, it would add about 0.12 percent to the country’s annual growth rate, but again, at a cost of about $1.5 trillion. “As far as tax reform trades go, really? Is this the one that you want?”

MachineGhost
MachineGhost
7 years ago
Reply to  Brent

Assuming he was referring their Taxes and Growth model, it only assumes the impact of taxes primarily on cost of labor and cost of capital. Expecting lower marginal tax rates to affect those cost inputs instead of overregulation and interest rates almost seems like apples vs oranges. This is why I don’t expect much from tax reform alone at this juncture — the vast majority of Americans are not entrepreneurs and interest has been decreasing for decades. We’re just not in the same situation that we were in the 1960’s or 1980’s the last time we had major tax reform nor are we at the trough of an economic expansion.

Yet, if we don’t engage in structural tax reform because we are more worried about the short-term costs than the long-term costs of not attracting and generating more innovation and productivity improvements to society, what exactly are we going to do about the perpetually-growing liabilities? So far we’ve been doing nothing at all and kicking the can down the road for decades. The deficit is easy enough to eliminate; but only sustained economic growth can provide the tax revenues to deal with those liabilities without turning into overindebted Japan or reneging on benefit promises the rage-inducing way.

We need to be careful to not get overly caught up in theoretical models that can never ever model every aspect of reality and human behavior. Anyone that tells you otherwise is lying.

Dave
Dave
7 years ago

Yipee! Trump offers a free lunch today for no food tomorrow. It’s called increasing the deficit. Hurts your kids and grandkids generation.
The idea that you can cut 5 trillion in taxes without proposing spending cuts and growth will fully make up for it is ludicrous (and yes there will be some additional growth, but not nearly 5 trillion worth)

Also of note is the tax cut is mostly for business owners not individuals when you factor in removing deductions.

Who doesnt like a free lunch? Rich people love the tax cut, businesses love the tax cut, and the less well off American public gets larged duped into thinking this is a good thing when it is really about businesses and the rich having more money and future generations paying for it.

…btw i would personally benefit from his proposal, but i dont think it is fair and is why i oppose it

Brent
Brent
7 years ago

Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do???? No.

The “less well of American public” have been voting against their economic interests for decades this is nothing new.

Trump loves the low-information voters who got him elected on the basis of phony culture wars and who he’s hoping will lower his taxes.

Anne
Anne
7 years ago

There’s a very interesting book on this subject: What’s the Matter with Kansas?

“A brilliant analysis-and funny to boot-What’s the Matter with Kansas? is a vivid portrait of an upside-down world where blue-collar patriots recite the Pledge while they strangle their life chances; where small farmers cast their votes for a Wall Street order that will eventually push them off their land; and where a group of frat boys, lawyers, and CEOs has managed to convince the country that it speaks on behalf of the People.”

Dave
Dave
7 years ago

Sam, take a look at this op ed in the washington post. It basically calls out what you are saying in terms of converting w2 income into busienss income. It also cites what happened when kansas tried this (growth did not materialize, and huge revenue loss caused credit downgrades)
Bottom line is someone has to pay for this massive proposed tax cut. Based on how it is structured it will either be future generations or the less well off in current generation. I am not ok asking either to pay for a tax benefit for myself or other relatively well off people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-dumbest-part-of-trumps-dumb-tax-plan/2017/04/27/c621d2ac-2b7f-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html?utm_term=.34ad3021caf8

MachineGhost
MachineGhost
7 years ago
Reply to  Dave

LOL, don’t be such a doom porner. :) Business is what employs the “less well off American public”. They’re overburdened with regulations and to a lesser extent, taxes. If you remove their burdens, what do you think will happen?

It’s really not hard to fix the yearly deficit… just a little less yearly spending and it would be gone in 10 years. But like most Americans, you don’t understand that we have a debt-based monetary system that relies on a continual Congressional spending deficit for Treasury securities to be issued into the private marketplace that then uses it as a safe savings vehicle (both individuals and banks). The only way to change that operational reality is through major monetary reform which we haven’t seen since Bretton Woods in 1944. It’s just not time for that yet (and if we’re really lucky, cryptocurrencies will circumvent the whole problem alltogether).

As far as Trump’s campaign promises go, hes reneged on almost two handfuls already, so track them at this site:

Joe
Joe
7 years ago

This is huge. There are a ton of changes in here. I’m going to have to transition to S corp if this goes through. I’m sure there will be a lot of revisions.
I don’t know if this is a good time for this kind of changes, though. If we get a recession, debt would explode with lower tax.

Charleston.C
Charleston.C
7 years ago

Not that I think his tax plan will pass as presented, but the way it reads I don’t support it at all.

Sure the 15% pass through for business owner will be great for small business owners, but the by product of that means any high income earners can essentially become a contractor and take advantage of it 15% instead of paying the higher bracket. In another words, no significant changes to middle class tax rate but opens the door for all of the high income earners to get away from paying taxes in the higher bracket by creating loop-hole of being self employed.

Why would a CEO pay the highest bracket, when he or she can arrange themselves to be a contractor instead to pay 15%. This tax plan essentially gets rid of the progressive nature of income tax.

Charleston.C
Charleston.C
7 years ago

Plenty of reason why it is only good for high income earners. To start,
Incorporating and being a contractor also come with additional costs, in addition to due to missing out on the benefits for full time employees. So I’d assuming the actual break even point is higher than $37,650 in terms of income.

Then there is the fact that pass through at 15% would more or less eliminates the progressive system of income tax all together, so right out of the gate that would be much more beneficial to those who are making more money than those who make less. If the high income earners saves 25% in taxes and those making between $37,650 and $91,100 saves 10%, comparatively speaking those who are saving less are going to be at a disadvantage. If everyone becomes a millionaire, no one is actually getting ahead (except for higher income earners saving more in taxes).

Then there’s the fact that employees in lower wage positions have less leverage to negotiate with employers to switch to a contractor role, so the opportunity may not be as readily available.

The 15% pass through definitely encourages people to become business owners and that’s a good thing for people to take charge of their own destiny, but I am not sure if repercussions are well thought out because this sounds more like a loophole than a tax plan.

Curtis @ PayoffmyRentals

So how will all this lost revenue be replaced??? I know we all hate paying taxes, but they do fund a higher quality of life for us. We all want our cake and to eat it too. Where do you “find” trillions of dollars of lost tax revenue over the next decade?

The Tepid Tamale
The Tepid Tamale
7 years ago

I am always in favor of lower taxes! Thanks for laying this out, I currently don’t have the time to get to this level of detail. Since you have researched this fairly deeply, where does the balance for the lesser taxes rates come from? Increased business, thus increased taxes? Cleanup of government expenditures.

A few years ago, thanks to blogs like this one, I have really cleaned up my finances. I don’t see why the government shouldn’t take a lot of the same measures.

MachineGhost
MachineGhost
7 years ago

That’s called “dynamic scoring” in budget projections. The problem is the Congressional Budget Office is biased and can’t forecast worth a hill o’ beans (it is a government agency, after all), so I would look for private sector sources for the proposed economic effects.

Still, we need a ridiculously high level of GDP growth (4%+) to statically deal with the outsanding liabilities and unfortunately at this juncture in the economic cycle, we are not ideally set up in terms of population and productivity growth to pull it off. What we really need is to at least act as the best tax haven for the rest of the world to pull in those trickle down financial services effects and act as a permanent plateau. That is in all probability likely going to happen with a 15% corporate tax rate as only Ireland is lower at 12.5%. We’re still renowned for the “rule of law” even if it’s gotten incrementally worse over the last 17 years (we’re no longer in the top [15] least corrupt countries).

DandelionFarm
DandelionFarm
7 years ago

I’m co owner of a $20 million business pass through business that generates about $2.5 million of income. Given my residence in a high tax state, my total blended tax rate is 52%. It galls me hat late global businesses can play games with business segment accounting and not dramatically reduce their taxes while the small guys get punished tax wise. We pay industry leading wages across all positions in our business as people are are competitive advantage for us. If our rates are lowered we will continue to invest in our rmployees with better training and compensation and grow more aggressively with the freed up cash that would have just been sent to government. For all the nay sayers out there that don’t think the dramatic lowering of taxes will spur this economy, they don’t understand the strong entrepreneurial culture of this country’s small business.