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Quote from: couchfi on November 23, 2020, 11:34:34 PM
3% after paying 4.5k on a 250k loan. Haven't seen investment property rates below 4% before, so pulled the trigger and did it.
Quote from: stingray on December 17, 2020, 05:47:54 AM
@mpspringer:
You do not need to wait to declare your investment(s) worthless. In some cases (see below), you may even lose your ability to claim a loss if you wait. The answers to your questions are contained in IRS instructions. The short answer is, be reasonable and document the reason for your decision. The even shorter answer is, and I say this as a friend: if you invest in vehicles like RS you should have an accountant who can handle questions like this and defend you in case of an IRS audit.
For tax purposes, for an untraded private asset, you can use your own reasonable method to determine when your investment becomes worthless. You certainly do not have to defer to RS. In my view, the factual circumstances make it reasonable to declare some of these RS investments worthless, even if RS has not yet admitted it.
If your investment is a partnership (LLC) interest, you can declare it worthless and take a (long-term) capital loss.
If you have not had partnership liabilities allocated to you (check your last Form K-1), in many cases you can affirmatively abandon your partnership interest and take a loss against ordinary income. This approach would be better for you, if you determine that you are allowed to take it. Here you must notify the LLC and document very carefully.
https://www.cpajournal.com/2016/10/01/partnership-abandonment/
If your investment is in the form a promissory note, the tax treatment is different. A failed investment is treated as a bad debt. If it is a personal investment, it must become 100% worthless, at which point you can deduct it as a long-term capital loss. It is up to you to determine when it becomes worthless. Note: the IRS states that you MUST claim the loss in the year the debt becomes worthless. If you wait until a subsequent year, the IRS could deny the loss.
Finally, a philosophical word about income tax: when you invest in complicated private deals, the application of tax law and regulation to real-world situations is never 100% clear. You have to do your best to comply, but there will often be gray areas that require judgment. Consult an accountant. Bear in mind, that if you act in good faith and document your reasons, the worst that will happen is that the IRS audits you and disagrees. There is really no shame in that. It happens all the time to sophisticated investors. You will debate your position with them. If you don't prevail, you will pay the difference in tax and some interest. There may be some penalties, but you can avoid or minimize these by acting in good faith and documenting your decisions.
GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND.