The Need For Liquidity Is Overrated (If You Are Financially Competent)

During the bull market, I shared my belief the need for liquidity is overrated. After going through a bear market in 2022 and buying a new house with cash in 2023, I thought I'd revisit my thesis to see if it still stands. So far, I think it does, but I am a little more cautious and less cavalier.

You've heard the recommendations of always having an emergency fund equal to 6-12 months of living expenses. Just in case something comes up, your emergency fund will be there to bail you out.

However, not only may we not need as much liquidity as we think, we may also not need our investments to be highly liquid as well. After all, the last thing we want to do is constantly go in and out of our investments. It's usually better to invest for the long term for compounding and tax minimization purposes.

If You're Financially On The Ball, Your Liquidity Needs Will Be Fine

If you are financially competent, which you are since you’re reading this post, then there will rarely be a case where you'll ever run out of money in an emergency. Further, there are plenty of instances where the lack of liquidity has saved many investors in the past.

Having six months of living expenses in cash is more than good enough for most people. Going down to three months of living expenses is probably enough liquidity as well.

Unless you're trying to buy a house, having too much cash becomes a drag on returns. Having too much cash may also make you lazy to build more wealth because you feel more safe and comfortable.

The Need For Liquidity Is Overrated

As someone who believes it's best to invest in stocks and real estate for as long as possible, having an investment that can be easily sold could be very detrimental.

Think about all the folks who wigged out between 2008-2012 and sold equities or real estate back then. Or more recently, what about the people who sold anything around March 2020? They're all kicking themselves now!

In 2012, I tried to sell my old rental house for $1,700,000. The worst of the downturn was behind us. I had recently engineered my layoff and figured it was better to downsize rather than hold onto a ~$1,100,000 mortgage.

As a result, I signed a 30-day exclusive listing contract with a real estate agent friend. He and his wife came over to stage our house.

We got a standard inspection done and pulled a 3R report for our disclosure statement for about $500. My agent ended up hosting three open houses and around 10 private showings.

Our best offer was a verbal offer with no number, just an indication they were willing to offer “much less than asking.” I told them to bugger off and pulled the listing after 29 days.

Thank Goodness For Illiquidity!

In retrospect, if I could have just pressed a button to sell my old house for $1,700,000, I probably would have. Thankfully, the real estate market was so illiquid back then that I saved myself from myself.

Instead, I sold the property for a lot more five years later in 2017. At the time, I felt selling the property for ~30X annual rent was too good to pass up. Further, I no longer wanted to deal with tenants and maintenance issues as a fist-time father. Thank goodness real estate was so illiquid! 

I then reinvested $550,000 of the proceeds into real estate crowdfunding, $500,000 into various stocks, and $500,000 into various municipal bonds. It was great to earn income 100% passively. 

Seven years later, I'm receiving healthy capital distributions thanks to investing in private real estate for the long term. Below is a snapshot of me receiving a $105,951.76 distribution from a $47,000 real estate investment I made in 2017. The IRR ended up being about 12%, which is solid compared to the S&P 500.

Without illiquidity, I may have tried to sell during the pandemic or any number of times between 2017 and 2024.

Capital distribution from private real estate fund 2024

Investing In Private Funds Is Illiquid

One of the main reasons why I like to invest in private funds such as venture capital, venture debt, and private equity is precisely because they are illiquid.

Once I commit a certain investment amount, all I have to do is meet the capital calls for the next two-to-four-years. I don't have to worry about when to buy or sell because I'm not in charge, the general partners are.

Mentally, it also feels good to invest with a 10-year time horizon before there is any type of liquidity event. Over 10 years, we'll most likely ride out the difficult times.

And hopefully after such a long period of time, our private fund returns will feel like bonus money. Because after investing for so long, we get used to not having that money. We may also sometimes forget about the potential distributions.

One of the most interesting funds I'm allocating new capital toward is the Fundrise venture product. It invests in:

  • Artificial Intelligence & Machine Learning
  • Modern Data Infrastructure
  • Development Operations (DevOps)
  • Financial Technology (FinTech)
  • Real Estate & Property Technology (PropTech)

Roughly 35% is invested in private artificial intelligence companies, which I'm extremely bullish about. The investment minimum is also only $10, as Fundrise has democratized access to venture capital as well. Most venture capital funds have a $200,000+ minimum. 

You can listen to my conversation with Ben Miller, CEO of Fundrise, about his thoughts on AI and what's next for the Innovation Fund.

Why You’ll Likely Never Face A Serious Liquidity Crunch

Just like the fears of running out of money in retirement are overblown, the fear of illiquidity is overblown. If you lose your job, lose money in an investment, or find yourself in an emergency, you will find a way to come up with the necessary cash.

We are all rational beings who will take action to improve a suboptimal situation! You are financially competent because you're reading this post, subscribed to my weekly newsletter, and tracking your finances like a hawk. You're financially competent because you care!

I'm confident the vast majority of you will be able to withstand a future liquidity crunch, unlike some banks who took too much risk. Let me share some reasons why you likely won't be forced to sell all your assets and live down by the river.

1) You have multiple types of insurance. 

With health insurance, homeowner's insurance, rental insurance, auto insurance, short-term disability, long-term disability, life insurance, and an umbrella policy, it's hard to succumb to a financial disaster unless you are not insured.

Sadly, medical debt is the #1 reason for bankruptcy in America, not poor spending habits. To counteract egregious medical debt, make sure you thoroughly understand what type of health insurance benefits you are getting for the monthly premiums you are paying.

Insurance will alleviate any severe liquidity crunches you may have due to an unfortunate event. So make sure you are properly insured, especially if you have children and debt.

My wife and I got matching 20-year term life insurance policies during the pandemic through Policygenius, and it was fantastic for our peace of mind. With two children under five and mortgage debt, we needed to get affordable term life insurance during this harrowing time. Thanks to Policygenius, we did and we feel much better as a result.

2) You have risk-free investments.

Everybody knows that it's important to save for an unknown future. Therefore, every financially competent person saves and invests as much as possible to protect against uncertain future expenses.

For proof, just look how the U.S. national saving rate shot up to 32% in April 2020 when the pandemic was at its worst. We can save more if we want to.

My recommendation is to have around 5% of your net worth in low-risk assets such as CDs, municipal bonds, US treasuries, and cash. This way, you'll be able to survive long enough until the good times return. In a high inflation environment, money market funds and Treasury bonds are yielding 5%+. Therefore, all the more reason to have risk-free investments in case you face liquidity issues.

The only people who don't save are those who believe they have a bright future. They have either built a business with massive profit upside or they're on the fast track towards superstardom at their respective companies. In such cases, they'll never need any savings.

Unfortunately, unpredictable bad things happen all the time the longer you live. Saving aggressively is a must.

3) You're well diversified.

I don't know any financially competent person who has 100% of their net worth in a single asset class. Financially competent people are well diversified in stocks, real estate, farmland, fine art, wine, commodities, crypto, collectibles and more.

Even if you did tie up 80% of your net worth in your primary residence, like the average American does, that still means you have a 20% buffer to sell before you need to tap your savings or take out a home equity line of credit.

Below is one of my recommend net worth allocation frameworks for self-starters who are willing to work on their X Factor. I may have to update this asset allocation for post pandemic life.

Recommend net worth asset allocation

4) You're not too proud to hustle.

The invention of Upwork, Uber, Lyft, TaskRabbit, Thumbtack, Craigslist, Etsy, eBay, Amazon, and WordPress make it possible for you to make extra side-hustle money if you find yourself in financial despair.

The other day we hired a person from Craigslist to install a wireless doorbell and several fire alarm systems in hard to reach places. He made $85 gross in one hour and had four jobs to do that day. 

Several years ago I gave over 500 Uber rides that made me roughly $30/hour gross on average and sometimes $100/hour net due to driver sign-up income. Today I can teach private tennis lessons for $100-$140/hour if I have to.

There's probably thousands of dollars worth of clutter in your house you can sell on Craigslist. And if you're really gung-ho, you can try to sell your craft on Etsy, buy and re-sell products on eBay or Amazon.

Or you can start a website like this one. It's so cheap and easy to start today compared to when I did in 2009. If you build up a large enough readership, you could earn money.

When I was facing a liquidity crunch due to my private fund capital calls, I decided to lock down a new business development deal and do a couple more personal finance 1X1 consulting sessions. In addition, I even did some part-time consulting for a fintech startup for four months.

When you're living paycheck-to-paycheck, you will find a way to eventually get out of it. Where there is a will, there is a way!

5) You've developed multiple streams of income.

There are an endless number of investments that provide passive income in case you lose your job or your business blows up. Given you've been diligently saving and investing for years, you should have some passive income to hold you over until you can find a new main source of income.

It took about 12 years after college for me to generate a livable passive income stream. After 20 years, the passive income was finally enough to provide for a family of four in expensive San Francisco.

Therefore, it's highly feasible that if you start generating passive income early, by the time your company decides to age discriminate by laying off 40+ year old workers, you'll be just fine.

the need for liquidity is overrated due to passive income streams

6) You negotiated a severance or received a severance.

Even if you didn't have the foresight to start investing early on, you should at least be able to negotiate a severance.

Standard severance packages range from 1-3 weeks per year you've worked plus 2-3 months of base salary according to the WARN Act for employees at larger companies.

If you work at a company with deferred stock and cash compensation, a good severance negotiation will allow you to keep your unvested compensation.

In other words, you have the potential to earn WARN Act pay, a severance payment, and deferred compensation to hold you over until a recovery or a new job.

7) You're eligible for unemployment. 

In most states, after you negotiate a severance you're also eligible for unemployment benefits. Conversely, folks who get fired or quit are often times not eligible for unemployment benefits.

The logic goes that they left due to cause or voluntarily. There are cases when you can receive unemployment benefits if you get fired for cause. However, it is an uphill legal battle that takes effort.

In almost all states, you get to receive unemployment for up to 26 weeks. In addition to unemployment pay, your unemployment agency will provide job search help and career training.

During severe economic times, unemployment benefits may get extended due to federal government assistance. For example, back in 2009, the federal government extended unemployment benefits up to 99 weeks. In 2020 and 2021, the federal government offered enhanced unemployment benefits for several months.

Unemployment Benefits By State

Below is a sample of the states with the highest unemployment benefits when we had maximum benefits of an extra $600 a week. In some cases, one could make more off unemployment benefits than from a full-time job.

The enhanced unemployment benefits of $300/week ran out on Sept 6, 2021. During extraordinary times, the value of a severance goes way up due to higher unemployment benefits.

With big government in charge, you can worry less during the next financial crisis. Although, you need to still be wary of an overly-aggressive Fed focused on crushing the middle class.

states with the highest unemployment benefits

8) You can slash costs and downsize. 

No rational person facing a liquidity crunch will keep spending and living like they once did. Instead, you will easily slash all extraneous costs. You will subsist on ramen noodles and water for as long as it takes.

Other expenses that will be reduced or eliminated include vacations, entertainment, driving, and clothing. You'll even sell things you haven't used in months on Craigslist or eBay.

If you own a home, you can either rent it out and downsize into a studio apartment. Or, you can rent out rooms for extra cash. A home's value, after all, is based on a multiple of its cash flow.  

Finally, you can open a home equity line of credit to boost your liquidity. Just make sure you have at least two banking relationships ships to get the best terms.

U.S. personal saving rate

Related: Housing Expense Guideline For Achieving Financial Freedom

9) You've got a vast support network.

Let's say worst comes to worst and you've completely run out of money. Since you're always focused on helping others, people will gladly line up to help you out.

Maybe they'll give you an interest-free loan or hook you up with a job at their company. Maybe a friend will give you some freelance work.

People absolutely love to help those they like, especially those that have brought some type of joy into their lives. Any emotionally competent person who is kind and helpful will have a good support network of helpers.

10) You're not too proud to live in mom's basement.

If for some reason you were completely selfish all these years, surely your parents will help during a liquidity crisis. They will unconditionally take you into their home and provide for you and your family until you can get back up on your feet.

The stigma of living with your parents as an adult child has subsided, especially post-pandemic. It makes sense to co-habitate and save money while the cost of housing is so high.

As a parent, if my son or daughter is down on his luck, you bet your buns of steel I'd gladly accept them back. This way, they can at least save on rent and build back their savings. I'd love to use this time to reconnect with them given 80% of the time we spend with our children is over by age 18.

In addition to living off your parents, you've learned how to properly ask your parents for money as an adult child. So many adult children have been able to extract from their parents money for a car and a down payment. Surely, it's much easier to ask for money if you're facing homelessness.

If you've never asked for help before, now is the time. Don't let honor and pride make your life more difficult than it already is. People are more than happy to help others who are down on their luck

11) You track your money like a hawk.

If you are regularly checking your net worth composition at least once a month with the help of a free online wealth management tool, then you're always going to know how your money is being allocated.

As a result, there will seldom be a surprise expense you cannot cover. You are fully aware of your monthly cash flow and liquidity. The people who have money issues tend to wing it and not stay on top of their finances.

The more you can track your finances, the better you can optimize your finances.

12) The government may bail you out.

Whenever there is extreme hardship, the government tends to bail its citizens out. Just look at what has happened during the coronavirus pandemic.

In addition to enhanced unemployment benefits, the government launched multi-trillion dollar stimulus packages that provided stimulus checks for millions of Americans who made below a certain threshold. Some people got $1,200 checks. Some families got much more.

Besides these stimulus packages, we've had bank bailouts, housing bailouts, natural disaster relief, and more. It's good not to depend on the government for bailouts. However, feel better knowing that the government has a history of bailing us out.

Related: Earn Higher Returns With An Illiquidity Premium

Reviewing My Liquidity During The Global Financial Crisis

I realize it's easy to say “liquidity is overrated” during a bull market. Bad things happen all the time, no matter how much we plan ahead for the future. But we're currently back to bad times and I still believe liquidity is overrated.

Financially, I thought I was rock steady until I got obliterated in 2008-2009. My net worth declined by ~35% in six months. However, even back then, liquidity wasn't much of an issue.

If I had lost my job, I would have received a severance package to last me through the recession. Further, I could have applied for unemployment benefits that would have lasted for an incredible 99 weeks back then.

If needed, I could have sold my house at the bottom and moved back home with my parents. But before I did that, I could have sold stocks or bonds. And of course, if absolutely necessary, I would have proudly returned to my minimum wage job flipping burgers at McDonald's!

By July 2009, the S&P 500 had stopped going down. And by 2012, the S&P 500 recovered all of its losses. The key is survive until the good times inevitably return.

However, I will say that the more cash you have the more liquid courage you have. Investment opportunities arise all the time. You need cash to take advantage. But you need lots of cash to have the courage to invest during bad times.

Ironically, as the Fed continues to raise rates, more people are sitting on more cash due to higher money market rates and Treasury rates. Hence, there should be even less of a concern about people not having enough liquidity to pay their bills or meet emergencies.

More Insurance For Your Finances

If you are worried about your financial future, the one thing you must do is start treating people right ASAP. Your friends and network will come to your rescue if you face a liquidity problem.

Get involved in your community through your local church or school. Volunteer at organizations whose mission it is to help the less fortunate. Become a mentor to others.

Ask your bosses or colleagues whether there's anything you can do to help without expecting anything in return. Connect with people on LinkedIn before you find yourself unemployed and in a liquidity crunch.

Your goal is to build up as many “credits” as possible just in case the worst happens.

Who knows. Maybe after 15 years of writing for free on Financial Samurai, perhaps some readers may lend a helping hand the next time I'm down on my luck.

We've got doctors, lawyers, physical therapists, real estate agents, venture capitalists, money managers, child psychologists, parents, and so many more reading this site. There’s a great community who can help each other.

The more you can help others today, the more help you will get tomorrow when you may really need it.

Liquidity is always good to have. However, unless you're saving up for a big ticket item, having more than six months of living expenses in cash is probably unnecessary.

Invest In Real Estate To Build More Wealth

Given you agree the need for liquidity is overrated, consider investing in real estate. Real estate is my favorite way to achieving financial freedom because it is a tangible asset that is less volatile, provides utility, and generates income.

Real estate now generates over $150,000 a year in passive income and accounts for roughly 40% of my net worth. The real estate market is going through a retrenchment period due to higher mortgage rates. However, mortgage rates are on the decline again and the interest in owning real assets has grown.

Take a look at my favorite real estate crowdfunding platform, Fundrise. Fundrise offers a way a way for all investors to diversify into real estate through private eFunds.

Fundrise has been around since 2012 and has consistently generated steady returns, no matter what the stock market is doing. For most people, investing in a diversified eREIT is the way to go. 

Fundrise

Invest In Private Growth Companies

Today, one of the things I stress about is whether artificial intelligence will take away my kids' future jobs. The world is already ultra competitive thanks to globalization and technological advancements. Now AI has the potential to wipe away millions of jobs in 20 years.

Because I care for my kids, I've come up with a solution. I am actively investing in private and public AI-related companies as a hedge. If AI does revolutionize the world over the next 20 years, then my AI investments have a high likelihood of making a positive return. If not, then my kids will at least have decent jobs after so many years of education.

Check out the Fundrise venture product, an open-ended way to invest in venture capital with exposure to AI companies. What's great is you get started with as little as $10. Specifically, the fund invests in the following five sectors:

  • Artificial Intelligence & Machine Learning
  • Modern Data Infrastructure
  • Development Operations (DevOps)
  • Financial Technology (FinTech)
  • Real Estate & Property Technology (PropTech)

Roughly 90% is invested in artificial intelligence to some capacity, which I'm bullish about. After my kids are out of the house, I don't want them asking me why I didn't work in AI or invest in AI near the beginning! 

Most venture capital funds have a $100,000+ minimum if you can get to invest in the first place. Fundrise, however, only has a $10 minimum. Plus, you can see where their exposure is before deciding how much to invest.

Financial Samurai Fundrise investment amount and dashboard
My Fundrise investment dashboard with investments in real estate and venture capital

Fundrise is a sponsor of Financial Samurai and Financial Samurai is a six-figure investor in Fundrise funds. 

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EBG
EBG
9 months ago

What if your loved ones are kidnapped and you need cash to pay the ransom? And no (#12), the US Government doesn’t negotiate with terrorists and isn’t going to bail you out. I know two people who were kidnapped in Morocco (by criminals, not terrorists) and had to pay ransom. And after October 7th, it’s pretty apparent which countries are willing to negotiate with hostage-takers for money (only the Philippines and Thailand) and which aren’t (China, Australia, the United States, Argentina, the UK, South Africa, Canada, and more). If you think it’s so far-fetched, you’re far removed from your EFM days.

Mark Di Bello
Mark Di Bello
1 year ago

Hi Sam,

What do you consider the X Factor in the Self Belief Framework chart ? Thx! Mark

OverthinkingMoney
1 year ago

Totally agree with this point. My wife and I have spent the last 2 years renovating our new home which has required us to hold an unholy amount in cash. It’s been the most uncomfortable 2 years of my financial life. I can’t wait to get moved in and invest the excess in the market.

I was actually thinking that perhaps I had been wildly conservative with the amount of money I’d set aside during the remodel, but then we ended up in court with our first contractor seeking a refund for breech of contract and I was really pleased that I could afford to not stress about it.

JJ
JJ
1 year ago

Sam
I have never been a fan of 6 months of living expenses cash in the bank. Being an entrepreneur I have always operated fast, and have always needed to make a profit from day one. When you’re young or older and have nothing to lose what does it matter?
So much of Dave Ramsey is for school teachers…safe safe safety. Really? If you take a chance, lay it all out…really give it all than you will succeed or not. You have to give your all assuming there is no safety net.
Too many people succeed marginally..or fail completely because they don’t take the leap of faith
I am older now so I don’t have or need to lay it all out but I have so many before. I get it once you’re at a level of success than chill…so many people chill too soon…

Dunning freaking kruger
Dunning freaking kruger
1 year ago
Reply to  JJ

Referring to Dave Ramsey as for school teachers is obviously a comment disparaging teachers as well as his established plan. A lot of people talk crap about DR but have little to nothing in the way of a plan or structure to back it up.

DR has a net worth approaching a billion and doesn’t use debt. He has also helped Millions get out of debt, including me.

Explain your money management structure and investment principles? How many people have you advised? How many people have you advised out of debt and into investing? “Taking a chance” and “laying it all out “ are platitudes.

Sounds like a suboptimal choice that is 50/50 for failure, or worse. I have heard that verbiage from people that lost a lot and put their family at risk.

My opinion, the point of investing is to produce wealth that gives a person options.

Now for an ad hominem attack – what plan do you have that exceeds what apparently the silly Dave Ramsey has developed? What secret do you possess that Dave Ramsey or people that follow most of his advice are too ignorant to grasp? What “chance” do you speak of? What specifically do you mean by “laying it all out”? What does it mean to “succeed marginally?” It sounds like a late night no money down real
Estate add. Most of those people ended up being indicted and
Convicted. Like I said ad hominem attack.

Dave Ramsey and FS have similar themes. Live below your means, invest the difference. Make optimal decisions with money. Don’t finance crap that depreciates. Don’t over consume. Is this success considered Marginal?

If you have a specific plan I would be interested in hearing it. For all I know you have an MBA from Harvard or Berkeley and are engaged in VC with billions under your belt.

But for a simpleton like me I’d love to know what specifics exist that exceed living below your means and investing the difference in appreciating assets over time.

Thank you,

Jeff

JJ
JJ
1 year ago

Love Dave Ramsey almost as much I I love
Sam…just wanted to spice it up a bit. It seemed there were some pretty boring posts…lol
Good brain exercise, right?

Kevin
Kevin
1 year ago

Thanks to you, I laddered my emergency fund into I-bonds such that I can now redeem them at anytime AND they’re earning nearly 7%.

Ben
Ben
1 month ago

love I Bonds as good return for zero risk

Chris
Chris
1 year ago

Sam, can you expand on how you think about the X-Factor allocation? Let’s say we take the 30% number for X-Factor – what exactly goes into that and makes up the value here? Is the idea that the X-Factor would be, e.g., a business you build that’s then worth 30% of your total net value and you could sell it for that or something else? Thanks!

Untemplater
1 year ago

Great timing on this post! I’ve been thinking about liquidity recently with property tax payments coming up and figuring out my other tax payments as well.

I was nodding when I read this, “Ironically, as the Fed continues to raise rates, more people are sitting on more cash due to higher money market rates and Treasury rates.” I’m in that boat right now and have more than I normally do liquid and in CDs and short-term treasuries.

Zach L.
Zach L.
1 year ago

Nice job here Sam! A great post like always!

I like having 3 months of emergency funds available, and will continue to decrease that number as my passive income increases.

Ben
Ben
1 month ago
Reply to  Zach L.

for me six months is my comfort level

Olaf, the Mile High Finance Guy

When first starting the journey towards financial stability or freedom, having a six-month emergency buffer is essential; for many, a year will bring a piece of mind. Once you hit a certain threshold of savings, though, the need for such large cash reserves becomes moot and instead becomes a cap on your portfolio’s ability to grow. For me, once I reached a sizeable portfolio of investments, I ran an analysis and saw that the opportunity cost of holding more than three months in cash was too great. With my side hustles and three-month buffer, the chances are small that I would not have the funds to cover a significant expense. If I do, I am willing to sell assets as needed to cover the cost. For me, the most likely asset I would reach for is my HSA, as I have years worth of medical expenses that I have yet to reimburse myself (surgeries add up fast). In the interim, I will continue to let these funds grow and use them as a supplement when needed.

Jamie
Jamie
3 years ago

I’m in the boat of having about three to six months of expenses in liquid cash. And then I have highly liquid assets to tap into if needed if something unexpected happens and I need to access more.

Everyone has a different comfort zone and a different amount of expenses, so some people may feel they need to have a higher amount in cash. But for me, I like my cash to work for me so I don’t let too much stockpile.

Great reference list by the way. Lots of ways to avoid a liquidity crunch!

Doug
Doug
3 years ago

Liquidity is not just about access to resources. It is about *low-stress* access to resources. Many of the alternatives discussed in this article would be accompanied by high levels of stress and anxiety.

The Real Estate Captain
Reply to  Doug

You make an important point. It all comes back to risk and reward. While many of these alternatives may be accompanied by high levels of stress and anxiety, they are backup options that allow you to maximize the amount of money you have an illiquid assets. Often illiquid assets have the highest returns, because they need to compensate you for the illiquidity. If an individual more adverse to high stress and anxiety, that individual should keep their money in more liquid investments, and therefore accept lower returns.

Joe
Joe
4 years ago

Would someone review my asset allocation. Background 26 years old turning 27 in a couple months. Household family income $170,000 (Wife and my combined income).

Cash – $62,000
Taxable stock account – $5,000
401k, IRA – $101,000
Real Estate (Primary residence and 4 rental properties) – $2,000,000.
Real Estate debt – $1,200,000.

Is it okay to keep buying investment real estate or do I need to allocate more capital to stocks? I buy about $30,000 of stocks each year. I’m always a tad worried about liquidity with such a large amount of real estate debt; however, the tenants pay the mortgages and it produces a small amount of cash flow. What are your thoughts?????

Untemplater
4 years ago

I used to feel I needed so much liquidity. Over time I’ve gotten more comfortable holding illiquid assets as I began to diversify my net worth. I still like having enough easy access liquidity to cover a couple months of expenses but try to avoid holding too much cash for too long.

reader
reader
4 years ago

I want to agree! However, my dual income tenants (one of whom is a doctor) missed three months of rent during COVID, claiming they didn’t have any savings at all, or any other means to pay rent, and weren’t eligible for unemployment. Evidently they needed an emergency fund, as none of the above-listed factors were enough for them to be able to cover rent, utilities and groceries (until no. 9 purportedly came through for them once I finally got a lawyer involved and the lawyer posted an eviction notice).

Charles t. Conrad
Charles t. Conrad
4 years ago

Computers and selling. This is dangerous business. I have hit a button and sold a stock. The next day I realized I panicked and bought the stock back.
A computer and free trading makes it too easy to jump in just to jump out. I learned and no longer do that. I think every mistake I have made is selling a stock.

reader
reader
4 years ago

I wasn’t okay with the doctor and spouse (who was still working and receiving an income) not paying rent for 3 months, because it came after I already gave them a free month of rent (so at this point it was 4 months in total, and $10,000, which is a lot of money to me), and when I asked them to make at least partial payments, their response was something like, ‘sorry, times are hard and after paying all our other bills, we had nothing leftover for rent.’ It was clear from their communication that they viewed me as their lowest priority, and they made no effort or offer to at least partially pay their rent, and I couldn’t afford to carry them indefinitely as I have a mortgage on the property, and a family of my own. In the end, it became clear that I needed to get a third party involved, and within hours of the third party posting eviction notice, all the past due rent showed up. Hard to say if the issue was a lack of emergency fund (probably), or if I was just getting taken advantage because I was initially overly sympathetic. Not a fun situation to deal with, and it has left me thinking hard about turning over my rental units to a property manager, which I’ve successfully avoided for 10 years.

IndianMama
IndianMama
4 years ago

you’ll never get 1st generation Asians to agree with you. They have to have cash in the bank, I’m fighting that battle with hubby.

IndianMama
IndianMama
4 years ago

It’s the parents who still wanna hoard the cash and yes, our kids are debt free.

Simple Money Man
Simple Money Man
4 years ago

Because the parents don’t know how compound interest works. Or they come from a country where maybe the government was corrupt so they have trust issues.

IndianMama
IndianMama
4 years ago

Because in India, there was no credit, you bought things with cash in hand, whether a house or a car. By the 2nd generation though, it’s debt all the way

Wanderer
Wanderer
4 years ago
Reply to  IndianMama

Indeed! Cash, property value and gold/silver jewelry was what your networh comprised off :)

J
J
4 years ago

Also the local stock markets are very inefficient….high trading commissions, listed companies are family conglomerates or soe, no interesting new businesses or growth stocks, high risk of fraud and misappropriation by management and controing shareholders, low liquidity etc, so all assets into cash and property

Mia
Mia
4 years ago

Sam, I’m going to have to disagree with you here. I was speaking with a financial advisor(male) just to check out what they would advise the other day about my extra cash on hand and I was expecting to hear him say only keep 6-12 months of cash on the side, the typical recommendation. They want a commission and want to use some of my extra cash for emergencies sitting around to invest. It’s a bank after all.

Then I hopped on a call to hear another broker(female) speak at a conference. She had no interest in mind of using my money to invest and she advised 2 years of emergency expenses. I understand what people will say about this. It’s such a waste of money and your cash is becoming losing its value due to inflation and better off selling your investments for cash instead even tax harvesting would be a better bet.

I’m fortunate enough to have 9 income sources but as a female, we tend to be more risk-averse and in fact, it always works in our favor. Men are traditionally known for taking on more debt, investing like its gambling not goal oriented, spend more, save less, take less advantage of retirement plans from their employers and women outperform over 1% with their portfolios than men. If we’ve learned one thing during this pandemic it is that you must prepare for the worst and hope for the best. During a recession, it wouldn’t be uncommon to see a renter go, job loss, etc you name it and in that case, 2 years worth of the cash will allow that cushion for finding a renter again, job, and still be able to spend the same as you are with all of that. Just my thoughts! I’m sure others like to live on the edge but better be safe than sorry.

I wrote an article about this on my personal finance blog(I’m a college student FYI) so I don’t know as much as you but certainly learning my way.

You can check out my thoughts more in-depth on why women are the best fit for personal financial advisors as per the reasons I mentioned above.

mark
mark
4 years ago

Yeah, i agree. maybe it has to do with the financial scars of multiple economic crashes and immigrant parents, hard not break the mindset. Like you are pointing out, have to look at it objectively

alan
alan
3 years ago
Reply to  mark

Those financial scars have definitely cost me tons of money over the years. 1987, 1990 and 2000 are the more memorable years where afterwards I became much more adverse to buying stocks. Fortunately I have done ok the last few years but I still became so risk adverse with my 401K after those three memorable years, that the balances are far less than they could have been. Those who started investing after 2000 can only assume how they will react if the market suffers major losses like the Nasdaq did in 2000, 2001, and 2002 (-39, -21, -31). It requires nerves of steel to watch a portion of your portfolio fall that much three years in a row. I remember moving my IRA to a technology mutual fund in 2000 – as a reminder of how bad things can get, I have never sold that fund. Of course, it is now up from 16K to 43K, but it took well over ten years for its value to recoup those years of losses.

Olaf, the Mile High Finance Guy
Reply to  Mia

Mia, if you do not mind me asking, do you have adequate investments outside of your emergency fund that could be liquidated if needed? If you are financially stable, which is a huge if, you should be able to arbitrage low interest rates with higher longterm market gains to make it more worthwhile investing some of these funds and borrowing in the short-term if needed before paying off the balance. If not, maybe 2 years is the amount you need to get you to a place where this feels unneeded to you in the future. Though, when I was an advisor, I met many people who preferred to have a backup for everything, which is fine as well. I would love to hear more on how you invest the remainder of your portfolio and if you take additional risk in other places as a result.

eric
eric
3 years ago

Everything is relative – blanket statements are tough. This article may work for him but I say as a banking veteran who has financed over a hundreds of million of loans, fools, whether with debt or without it, generally give short shrift to the fundamental of liquidity.

Cash is and always will be king in times of pure survival.

A word about that: I was at ‘ground zero’ during the 08 crisis as a Lehman Brothers employee: nobody really has a good idea at how close we were to returning to the economic stone age. Seriously. Seriously, perilously close.

If you really knew – most of the folks commenting here or writing articles like this would have no confidence in their personal financial strategies which assume that the music (the economic rules, mechanisms and institutions that make modern civilization work) is still playing or will always play.

Long haul – it will – but it can also go very silent for what can be a punishingly long time, the silence can easily outlast your confidence.

biggrey
biggrey
3 years ago
Reply to  eric

Very thoughtful post, well said. Veterans of the cycles can see more and acknowledge they know less.

Further, I might add for the “long haul” – it “may” – not “will”. No one knows if it “will”.

For example, if you took a poll of the 10’s of thousands of small business people being decimated and put on the verge of or over bankruptcy in Canada right now given near-martial law conditions you would get a great many very depressed and desperate people responding “it won’t”.

Paper Tiger
Paper Tiger
1 year ago

True, but don’t forget the lost decade between the beginning of 2000 to the end of 2009 where the average annual return of the S&P 500 over this ten-year period was -0.9%. Fortunately, it was only the second time over a ten-year period throughout history that we had a negative return but it can happen.

I’m glad it was a time when I was between 43-53 and we just let it ride and kept dollar-cost averaging into our investments. However, now that I am 65, I would not want to go through that again but I also have a different-looking portfolio now that is not quite as equity-heavy.

dom
dom
5 years ago

Sam, you always mention allocating cash, stocks, bends, etc as x% of your net worth. Say i have $100k in assets and $50k in debt – if you believe cash should be 10%, are you referring to 10% of the $50k net worth or 0% of $100k?

just want to clarify

Rhonda
Rhonda
6 years ago

I always get bad vibes when people mention that I need at least 3x of my monthly salary somewhere stashed as liquid money. It is all the more frustrating in a country like India where liquid money almost puts you in the same cage as tax defaulters, at least in the eyes of tax officers. All I say is that have some instrument that you can quickly disassemble and get money. For emergencies, you have life and health insurance…

Todd Guthrie
Todd Guthrie
6 years ago

Another factor that I’ve considered is that financially literate people need less liquidity because they are better able to plan a budget.
A financially illiterate person, who doesn’t think much about money, might need to have lots of extra cash on reserve just because they forget to anticipate large expenses.
Me, I know what I’m doing. I plan for taxes, insurance, car maintenance, and plenty of other things. But I know more than a few other people who take those sort of things as a surprise each time, and suddenly need to scramble for the cash whenever they get a big bill in the mail.

Gen Y Hustle
6 years ago

How would you deal with instances of mis-perceived liquidity? For example, assets you had counted on to be safe and/or liquid, are suddenly neither. During the financial crisis these were mortgage backed bonds. Maybe now it’s Munis (see Puerto Rico) or bond funds/ETFs that promise liquidity but the underlying assets are most definitely not liquid.

I like to employ a barbel approach. My risk free assets are TRULY risk free, and my assets that seek return are ALL ABOUT RISK. Not talking about cash here, but Treasuries and CDs I consider risk free. Munis…

Dunny
Dunny
6 years ago

Sam I agree with you that many people do not need an emergency fund as such, but they have the equivalent. People who need an emergency fund never have one and vice versa. They are not planners and not good risk assessors in general.

I try to figure out the very worst case scenario and what I would fall back on and in what order. When budgeting or estimating monthly and annual expenses, I break it down quite finely and have categories for car repairs, medical, house repairs, travel costs for funeral, unknown (espcially in the past when it mattered a lot more). If you have a plan then you really never have an emergency. And you don’t make things worse when bad times come. I have weathered bad times and it was tough but I made it through and learned something every time.

Now I can weather any ordinary emergency or major recession without cutting back. I have 90-95% of financial assets invested in stocks and I just sell some as I need money. The portfolio grows every year as I never spend all the income/gains.

The following strategies are ones I use or have used and ones I have seen other people not use before, during and after bad times.
– not paying my mortgage down, but rather keeping payments as low as possible by going with variable rate mortgage and stretching amortization to the maximum (35-40) years (to keep housing and basic expenses as low as possible and instead keep growing my financial assets)
– always having a rental unit or two in my house and/or have ESL student boarders to add certain income if I lose my job or freelance work is slow
– before I had enough financial assets, and relied on freelance jobs for income, keeping about 1-2 years basic expenses in cash, and not going on holiday unless I did
– making sure my rental and pension income covers all housing and vehicle related costs (it now covers income taxes and basic overhead as well)
– keeping basic overhead as low as possible. I spend much more now but can cut back instantly in bad times
– saving and investing all large sums received and most of my earnings until my financial assets were large enough to afford a setback
– risk testing my portfolio. Calculating how much I could lose and how long to recover with or without cutting back, by estimating how deep the recession could be and how quickly the market would recover. Also keeping flexible enough so that cutting back can be done instantly. Doing this keeps me from panicking or spending too much or not enough
– never trying to time the market either housing or stock market and not waiting for the market to pull back
– drawing my pensions (taking discounts or penalties) as soon as I could for certain income
– keeping basic overhead way down. My luxuries can be eliminated in a moment
– not buying cars (drove last one 28 years) or luxury cars (expensive to repair, insure, run, etc.) or toys
– never borrowing money (mortgages excepted) or even taking a HELOC for investment purposes (okay for a standby money)
– never getting into risky investments (with fun or play money I have seen people call it). None of my money is for playing or gambling
– setting up high limits on several credit cards and as large a LOC as I could qualify for when my income was high or steady (never to be used except in “emergency”)
– not paying other people to manage my money, do my taxes, gardening or many other things I can do myself (keeps basic expenses low)
– not moving, buying and selling houses or other assets, going back to school, having babies before getting a house, etc.
– avoiding emergencies by driving carefully and within speed limits, and taking care of property and health
– not buying cottages, RV’s, boats, time-shares, luxury cars, etc. that all have to be sold, not maintained or stored, or sit idle if times are tough
– not funding other people’s emergencies
– trying to have all assets the appreciating kind and buying decent quality things that last and keeping them a long time
– self-insuring on lower risk items (travel, appliances, health) but getting ample insurance on high risk (construction/renovation projects, vehicle, liability, home)
– minimizing taxes by contributing maximum to RRSP and making as many expenses as possible deductible against business, investment or rental income
– eating healthy and exercising, taking good care of eyes, teeth, hearing, knees and hips so I won’t have big medical expenses or have to sell or modify my house or hire people to do things
– not panicking and selling investments in a downturn or when jobless. Believe it or not, when I worked for an investment broker in 2008, I saw people selling their entire portfolios at the bottom but keeping the Mercedes, selling the parent’s house (in Vancouver!) they had inherited for money to live on while looking for the perfect job after being downsized or had businesses fail at age 50 plus. They not only drained their own funds, but their inheritances.

Eric
Eric
6 years ago

Man… 2008 permanently scarred me. Besides a paid off home (high COL area) and angel/vc/crypto (less than 5% of total net worth) I am 100% liquid. I won’t even do index funds… ETF equivalents only.

Mark D.
Mark D.
6 years ago

The only way I will run into a liquidity crunch is if the economy collapses, and who knows – it can happen. Now my kids, that’s another issue. I have 1/3 rd of my portfolio outside of IRAs and 401K. and I want to ladder about 6 yrs worth of expenses into CDs. That should give me the cushion I need.

Worried Wart
Worried Wart
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark D.

Are you hedging for currency risk? When I look at central bank & government liabilities, I can’t help but worry they will bail themselves out as a political decision.

Greenbacks Magnet
6 years ago

I have to agree with the comments made in #7 about unemployment. I knew a guy who got fired and his former employer denied his unemployment. However, the reason for the firing was trivial. So he fought it. He had witness testimony of his exact actions. Once the unemployment agency heard this they reversed the employers decision and allowed the unemployment benefits. But like Sam says, you may not get it if you quit or get fired. This is why I advocate for an emergency fund of 3-9 months. I say cover all your bases just in case. This money will at least give you time to find another job or start a side gig. Just my two cents.
Thanks, Miriam